Please can I have some input as to what you think/the current market value is, of a 1st edition jungle jolteon holo psa 10?
Any help appreciated.
The last 2 sold for $499 (BIN) and $1,025 (auction). Typical price for the past year is around the $400 mark: www.psacard.com/auctionprices/tcg-cards/pokemon-jungle/jolteon-holo-1st-edition/values/544158#g=10.
Interestingly the $1,025 auction appears to have been a legitimate sale, however I don’t think that’s a good basis to mark the current value against. Whilst it is a beautiful card, it’s one of Jungle’s holofoil cards with the most PSA 10s graded, second only to Flareon.
How about 500.00
I think that’s even a bit steep. The average sale price for the entirety of 2019 was $345, and that includes the recent $499 which was the highest the card has ever sold for in PSA 10 at that point. Without that it’d go down to $314. I think the recent high figure is down to there being limited market availability at the moment, but I’m pretty sure that’ll turn around soon enough. There have been 2 PSA 10s graded in the past 2 weeks.
I think if I were in the market for a PSA 10 Jolteon I’d probably be happy to part with $450 at most, but ideally I’d want to hold out to see if I could get one for $375 or so.
If you’re selling: $500 is probably easily achievable at the moment.
If you’re buying: just wait a while, $500 would be the second highest a PSA 10 Jolteon has ever sold for.
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Around $500 at this time in my opinion, the reason i stay away from most jungle 1st Ed is the high pop, plus the constant increase in the Pop, if im not wrong during last 2 months 6 new PSA10 Jolteon were graded.
And its happening constantly.
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I think your information is simply outdated. Jungle prices have spiked in a major way since mid-2019 or so.
For PSA 10 1st editions, we have had people offering $2,000+ for Vaporeons and not finding sellers, Snorlaxes selling for over $2,000 as well. Kangaskhans have sold for $1,400-$1,500 and recently Clefables have started to sell for a bit more than that. Wigglytuffs have sold for near $1,000. Yesterday, a Nidoqueen went in auction for $925.
If you want to say that you would not buy cards at these prices because the value has gone up so much in the last year, that’s fine. But these are the prices the cards have been going for. In the case of Jolteon, you’re right - the last sale was for $1,025 and the sale before that was for $500.
The *only* thing that keeps the price of the Jolteon down is the population relative to other PSA 10 1st edition Jungle holos. Whereas there are only 64 Vaporeons and a few of the other Jungle holos are also under a pop of 70, there are 123 Jolteons and 164 Flareons.
So what has the Flareon been selling for? In reverse chronological order, they have sold on eBay for: $550, $415, $400, $475.
That’s despite the fact that the PSA 10 population for 1st edition Flareons are *far* higher than any other Jungle holo - only 3 Jungle holos have a population over 100. Jolteon at 123 is the second highest pop.
But Jolteons population is still significantly lower than Flareons. If Vaporeon is currently going for well over $2,000 and Flareon is selling for near $500, I certainly think Jolteon can easily go for over $500 right now (I mean, the last one literally did sell for over $1,000). Based on recent sales trends, I would bet that a Jolteon could be put up on eBay for ~$750 or so and it wouldn’t be very long before someone scooped it up.
One more thing I want to correct. You said “If you’re buying: just wait a while, $500 would be the second highest a PSA 10 Jolteon has ever sold for.”
That’s factually incorrect. Going back to late 2016/2017, Jungle prices exploded. The population for the PSA 10 1st edition Jungle holos was incredibly low at the time. At the time, I recall Jolteons selling for upwards of $1,000. Then what happened? The Jungle population had a sudden explosion, because there was a huge discrepancy between the price of the holos and the price of the 1st edition boxes (boxes were selling for ~$800 at a time when some of the holos were selling for more. So people started to crack open a ton of Jungle boxes and grade the cards. The populations started to jump. And prices came way back down in a hurry.
But in the last couple of years, the price of the boxes has continued to climb - Jungle boxes sell for over $4,000 now - to the point that opening the boxes would be a foolish financial decision (especially since Jungle holos are so hard to grade). The population of the cards slowed down again, and over time demand has started to catch up with the supply again. So in the last two years we’ve seen Jungle prices rise again, and then in the last half-year or so we’ve had a true surge in the demand and prices for these cards.
Again, the difference between this price surge and what we had 3 years ago or so is that the price of the boxes is now more than 5x as great.
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This simply isn’t true. There have been 3 new PSA 10 1st edition Jolteons added to the population in the last 6 months.
Check the data on pokemonprice.com.
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One just sold on Ebay in 13 minutes for $500 plus $20 shipping.
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To add abit more, what do you guys think a fair price for a Jolteon no symbol card is for a PSA 10? Which would you prefer as the rookie card if you could have only one?
I love this post! My absolute favorite thing is people bringing up pop reports in relation to price. I don’t care how many there are of a card, that is not the supply on the market. As Pokémon continues to establish itself and prices continue to move, the thought process that I’m going to try and get this card at the price it was in the past is going to leave a salty taste in your mouth. How many times have we read the same post, “at the time I was paying a PREMIUM and now look”. Until the economy turns you’re going to see more of the same in terms of market trend I believe, maybe not as steep and yes it will fall back a couple times but zoom out.
Also, there are plenty of people out there that WILL NOT SELL 10s at the moment even if they are doubles, triples, etc. so you better hope those 2 people grading Jolteons 10s are only in it for the quick buck cause you’d never see that card pop up for sale under my account right now.
I actually talked about this sale a few days ago on ig because someone couldn’t believe the price. I wasn’t really surprised by the price and personally thought it would end in the 800-1k range. The price of jungle has exploded recently, one hadn’t sold in a couple months and there are a lot of people out there that like to collect the eeveelutions in addition to those that collect 1st Ed jungle. 1st ed jungle prices from 2019 sadly aren’t really relevant anymore. Even if you look at how much certain cards cost relative to each other, that has completely changed and will continue to do so over time.
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Coming from a guy who has a ton of PSA 10 1st Ed Holos, these prices are crazy lol. I’ve been having a decent amount of people on Insta begging me to sell and offering many times what I originally paid more than a year ago. Despite me stating I’m not interested in selling. Unfortunately many of these cards are in the hands of either hardcore collectors or serious investors.
The prices could go down, but since 2016 every time people anticipate some kind of price drop they’re proven wrong. The amount of cards I’ve turned down expecting a cheaper option to appear only to look like a fool as the card doubles & triples in price as time goes on and still not have the card lol.
These days no one seems to care what the last copy sold for. They just know the market is drying up and they’re paying whatever they can afford just to get that card out of the way.
6 months isn’t enough time to claim information is outdated. It’s all down to supply and demand and right now the supply is low. I don’t believe the new price for Jolteon is $1k, I firmly belive that is an outlier.
1 in every 6.6 Jolteon cards to have been graded has come back a PSA 10. Vaporeon on the other hand is 1 in 11.3, Kangaskhan is 1 in 11.5, Clefable is 1 in 12.4 and Wigglytuff is 1 in 9.2. Jolteon is a much easier card to grade than those, and for that reason I don’t believe it’s value can have more than quadrupled from the lowest sale of 2019, $218.50 in April.
If you’re a buyer my advice would be to hold off for a few months until supply picks back up. If you’re a seller, now is the perfect time to sell.
The original post simply asked what the current market value is. If you think this is a good time to sell and not a good time to buy, that is a perfectly valid opinion, but the OP simply asked what the current market value is. The fact is that the price for Jungle holos has gone up significantly, as reflected by sales in the last 6-12 months.
And again, compared to the last time Jungle individual card prices dropped, the boxes are now selling for 5-6x as much as they did then.
One sold today for 500.
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@pichufan just because a card isn’t as difficult to grade as other cards doesn’t mean the price can’t go up by X amount. I do agree with what you’re sort of getting at which is that cards with higher pop tend to have more consistent sales, people undercutting each other on price and as a result, smoother and more gradual growth. Population is only one piece of the puzzle though. All that being said, it wouldn’t surprised me at all to see the next one sell for less, maybe $875 or so.
Disregarding difficulty in grading, don’t forget that Jolteon is the most awesome card in the jungle set! Scyther being a close second.
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In the current market we’re way past the “take the average of the last few sold prices” for popular and limited-supply PSA 10 cards. That works for cards where there are 20 copies on eBay at all times, but if you want to buy in the situation we’re in now, be prepared to pay.
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Difficulty to grade is a moot point. You’re looking at the card being graded since original printing. Data is most certainly skewed. If you’re looking for Jolteon specifically, your best chance at finding a gem mint caliber card is to open a pack. I think we’ve all read the barriers to acquisition in this manner so I won’t repeat.
If you’re going to purchase a raw mint card (which you never know how mint) you’re now paying $50+ and probably more- haven’t really checked. Taking your data into account say 50x6.6=330. Now I can all but guarantee you spend more than 330 buying mint cards and almost guarantee you have to buy more than 7 unless obviously you get lucky with one of your first but that’s tough to do and you’re gonna have to pay a premium.
As everyone in this thread has argued… This isn’t 2016 anymore boys
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PSA 9s sales used to be consistent around $50 but recent sales are closer to the $200 point. The floor on the 10 has risen. With a $200 9, a $500 10 seems like a pretty good deal.
Prices on a lot of wotc holos are so variable in the past few months, establishing what is the market price or a “good deal” is just an impossible task. You can look at recent sales but it seems like every new sale invalidates the sale history and who knows where these cards will settle in the next year