Where do the Neo sets in 1st Edition sit in comparison to the 1st Edition Jungle, Fossil and Rocket sets in terms of value? Obviously the latter three preceded the Neo era but it feels like the Neo sets are climbing in desirability perhaps.
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I would say neo. This statement holds for unlim, too.
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The Neo sets by far. The Neo dogs and Shining cards are in demand.
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Jungle and Fossil were never hot… even back in the day. I’d probably even put the Gym sets above.
Neo is really hot. Especially Neo Destiny, it’s hotter than Base Unlimited.
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What about Genesis and Discovery though, the sets without the dogs and Shinings?
Lugia says hi. So does Yanma and a few others. 
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Jungle and Fossil were hits in their own way, but in a prospective value sense the Neo sets have more to offer variety-wise. Discovery has Umbreon, Espeon, Houndoom. and Tyranitar (and Yanma, but for the reason that it’s extremely tough to grade) and Genesis has the Gen 2 starters plus Lugia. Destiny and Revelation are the most desired sets.
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1st edition neo destiny is the best box to have behind 1st edition base IMO. It’s already expensive but I think the 1st edition shining cards are underpriced at the moment, and there are eight of them in the box. When these cards go up the box is going to increase as well … this is why I love boxes, you’re invested in the entire set so if anything goes up it affects the box, you don’t need to worry about owning specific cards because you potentially already own everything. That potential is worth a lot.
I like jungle, fossil and rocket 1st edition boxes, I’ve got a few and I’m getting more. They’re never going to compete with neo destiny and revelation because of the shining pokemon but I think they’ve got a good shot at doing better than neo discovery and genesis. I’m not big on those two just because they don’t have anything too interesting in them besides gen 2 pokemon while the others are OG expansions with the classic pokemon and team rocket has a big tie in with the original anime and games.
Here in Australia I’ve seen jungle and fossil boxes sell for more than neo genesis, I had a seller asking AUD$2000 for a neo genesis box while a jungle recently sold on eBay Australia for AUD$3000,a fossil for AUD$2500 and I saw another jungle sell on facebook for AUD$2700. There’s also a guy on facebook that opened a 1st edition jungle box to sell the packs and has sold half so far for AUD$85ea, so the price definitely seems to be moving up & it looks like there’s demand to sustain it at least here in Australia. All the BIN on eBay for those boxes have been creeping closer and closer to the USD$2k range as well.
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I feel given the cards in the sets that Jungle will gradually creep further ahead of Fossil and obviously Rocket still has a desire but less so than the others (I think all the Pokémon printed in Rocket were printed prior in other sets, correct me if I’m wrong though). With that said it is the first set to have a secret rare in the set which would add some sort of value. I would personally value it as Jungle > Rocket > Fossil for this reason with Jungle garnering so much interesting due to the “rookie” cards of the eeveelutions and many desirable and liked Pokémon in the set.
Of course Neo Destiny and Revelation will pique the highest interest for the Neo sets but I think Discovery and Genesis sit alongside each other for various reasons, each set appealing to some more than others. I would take to the Discovery set more due to Umbreon and Espeon as well as Yanma being notoriously hard to grade in 10, I like that. With that said many others would opt for Genesis because of the starters as well as Lugia. I’m not sure if it would have any impact but Genesis also contains 111 unique cards, whereas Discovery only has 75. Would the higher set number perhaps change anything?
A little also but I think the inclusion of Unown in Discovery add some level of collectibility to the set too.
discovery is so underrated. i mean, in my opinion it has some of the best artwork ever produced. Dat Espeon+Umbreon+Houndour+Houndoom+Tyranitar+Ursaring+Scizor+Kabutops… Pwoah!
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So out of all of them, assuming I’m not interested in Destiny or Revelation, most would suggest going for Discovery? I might look at that and Jungle… before the prices get too high.
Buying jungle before the 15th or 20th of this month wouldn’t be a bad idea. Long term Discovery is a great set to look into
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What happens after the 15th or 20th of this month? I might just do that (also have some Unlimited Rocket boxes lined up for 700 per)… would that be a decent idea?
SMR magazine reaches most subscribers by the 15th to the 20th.
I honestly don’t know what the Team rocket boxes will do, and anything I say would be based on speculation. That said they’ve been at $700-750 for ~3 months. 1st ed price has gone from 140% to 195% price of unlimited. That could mean 1st ed was undervalued (lilely so) or that unlim. is yet to catch up… But among the options I’d probably choose Jungle -equivalent in disparity with greater potential. That’s my personal preference and impressions though so don’t take that as advice, just as a data point or general information from one collector to another
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Oh right, I thought it had already reached people by now. In that case it does seem like a good decision to pick one up before then.
I’ll give it some more thought I suppose and make a decision on it. I suppose if I could find a 1st Ed Rocket box for lower than market though then that wouldn’t be a terrible decision either. Sounds like Neo Disc and Jungle are the way to go though for my options. That said, I could also go into the EX era but eh, maybe in the future. I feel WOTC will rise first.
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It takes some time to reach across to the east coast US, so some receive it soon while others have to wait. Then it sits on the coffee table until they have time to read it
I used to set up a list of wants and then snipe the one with the better deal when it came along (still do so). That way I usually buy at the lowest price and I’m always ready for when that opportunity comes along that’s too good to pass up… works well for me
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Imo. Neo sets have commanded market at least for one year compared to Jungle/Fossil/Team Rocket, it’s the original expansions after Base which have caught up Neo in terms of value lately.
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So how would you go about choosing between them then? Given a hypothetical that if you were to choose between the ones I mentioned that is. I think I’ll pick up at least one TR BB Unl as well as perhaps a 1st Ed of it but I think now I’m conflicted between the Jungle and the Neo Discovery as they’re sitting on very similar price points… (current listing for NeoD on ebay: 1900, Jung: 2k).
@jkanly I managed to find someone selling a 1st Ed Neo Discovery for 1750 USD case fresh. I think the lowest I’ve seen them sell for as of late (referring to the past three months).
Well since you’ve spoken so long of adding Neo Discovery box in collection it should be the right choice. If there’s other rare wants take care of them first and then focus on Jungle/Fossil/Team Rocket.