What’s the general price premium of a BGS 10 over a PSA 10 for old school vintage cards? I was thinking a 1.5-2x multiplier but wanted to get a second opinion. For example if a psa 10 1st base zard is 35-40k, what’s the pristine worth? 90k?
Depends upon the card, in most cases there is no premium. In sought after cards some of them have much higher premiums. In things like 1st ed Charizard, you’re looking at whatever Gary’s willing to pay vs the next highest bidder.
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Not so long ago I were watching auction for secret rare ReshiZard BGS 10 black label, I was thinking it will go for around 2-2.5x more than PSA 10, but it went for over 10x more than PSA 10 lol (I think final sales price was around 9k$). I know black labels are different, but still. In general regular BGS 10 can be anywhere between 10% - 100% more, it really depends on a specific card.
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I’m almost certain the BGS 10 Reshizard was shilled so that $9k price is not legit.
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Why do you think so? It’s a unique pop 1 card.
@microgypsy, the seller was trying to sell it on other sites after the auction ended, meaning it wasn’t paid for. I believe it was posted in the giant auction thread.
@microgypsy, The reshizard didn’t sell.
Overall there isn’t a consistent pattern. Sure some charizards have an added premium with bgs 10, but most cards don’t have an added premium.
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As above the reshizard got posted on reddit a few days later. In no normal world is a hyper rare card $8k it just doesn’t happen. So just wait and see the sudden increase of bgs 10 and psa 10s on eBay Because of that one ‘sale’
I really wanted that ReshiZard lol But not for that crazy price. Hope it will pop-up somewhere soon.
BGS 10 and black label is buying the label not the card. I think most people have come to realise this and a surprisingly small number of BGS 10s will out value PSA 10.
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Don’t underestimate what people will pay for something they perceive as rare in Pokemon.
Any BGS 10 will fetch a premium in Pokemon over a PSA 10.
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Having multiple PSA 10 copies and some BGS 10 of the same card, I’d definitely pay a premium for the BGS 10s in my collection. I have noticed that it is more common to get a PSA 10 with slight edge whitening than it is to get a BGS 10 that way. I understand that there’s always exceptions – but, that’s just what I’ve noticed.
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Generally speaking a BGS 10 allows for no damage or inconvenience at all. A PSA 10 can have some very minor spots, whereas a BGS 10 shouldn´t. That means there is a much higher probability to get that “perfect” card with a BGS 10 then a PSA 10. There´s examples where that´s obviously not the case but in general it should work like that. That´s also why “strong” PSA 10s almost always fetch a premium compared to “weak” 10s, in the end it´s about the card and not the grading company.
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I’d argue people aren’t looking that hard at the card and will just buy the grade.
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That is true. “PSA 10” and “BGS 10” can be a buzz term.
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Right, that happens more often than people may think. A weak PSA 10 with more imperfections than a strong PSA 9 will most likely sell higher than the 9 regardless of the actual card quality.
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I wonder how long it will take the flippers to realise sending new cards to PSA is cutting yourself short with modern product.
Imo Japanese cards and English cards released post 2015 should be sent to BGS over PSA if you want to maximise monetary value because the print quality is just amazing, you might as well juice as much as you can from them and aim for PSA 10s if that’s the goal. Go big or go home.
What I feel isn’t always appreciated are the abundance of nm or mint cards in this hobby. When PSA devised the 1-10 scale almost 40 years ago they would have never imagined populations of cards to contain hundreds of 9s and 10s. It was created with decades-old baseball cards from chewing gum and cigarette packets in mind and even in the 1980’s they would have taken into account the shortcomings of the technology of the time.
Grading cards PSA 10 isn’t exactly “special”, we’ve been desensitised to it. A BGS 10 in Pokemon, at least for the time being, is still a rarity since PSA grading is so ingrained in the psyche of the collector base.
It’s not unique to Pokemon. In Basketball Giannis Antetokounmpo’s base (equiavlent of a common) rookie card has nearly 2000 copes graded by PSA and more than 1600 of those are Gem Mint 10s and that’s a 5 year old card.
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PSAs opinion is normally right within a grade. That’s all they promise. Years ago you’d get a card the dealer called mint and it would be a 5. Grading company’s fixed that.
That’ll have to do until computers take over.
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If you spelled his name without Google, you’re the real MVP
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People have tried, doesn’t really work for most generic cards it needs to have a hype beast element and even then it isn’t that amazing the difference looking at sold listings ReshiZard hyper only sold for around $100 more in BGS 10 over PSA 10 and that card was relisted. Most of your sub will be 9.5s too even the greatest flip raffle king on earth would struggle to move 9.5 modern product beyond raw price.
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