Buying a PSA 9 Proxy?

Honestly, I can’t understand why people spend so much on fake cards. With $500 you can easily pickup some solid real cards. I’m guessing for scamming purposes or maybe the buyer doesn’t understand the card is fake?

www.ebay.com/itm/CHARIZARD-4-102-1st-EDITION-SHADOWLESS-BASE-SET-PSA-9-PROXY-/133575052731?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=1OPUc6ohodQHRWBBMsBMc5%252B08fQ%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc

People are stupid.

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I bought a proxy venusaur in a obviously fake slab for 20 bucks because I thought it was funny.

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What I can’t understand is the ‘No refunds no returns’ disclaimer. Here in the UK sellers are required to accept returns within 14 days of purchase, and as a top seller you are even required to accept 30 returns on all listings.

Not the first time I see this on US listings. Does the ‘No refunds no returns’ disclaimer by the seller have any legal validity in the US in case a buyer wants to return an item, or is the seller just using it as a way to discourage buyers from returning the item?

When the buyer returns the item there is a few options to choose from such as ‘Just dont want it’ or ‘Item defective’

If they try to return it because they dont want it, you can CLOSE their return request

But they are all a bunch of liars so they will just say something like ‘It’s fake’ so you wont be able to close their return.

Buyers very familiar with how to abuse return system

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both parties are idiots and anyone funding these idiots is also an idiot

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You’re supporting the makers of counterfeits when you purchase them, even if the amount you’re paying seems insignificant.

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I’m sure the hobby will survive this huge injustice that I have betrayed it with

Not a great attitude to have.

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This is a prime eBay garbage post.

I’ve noticed an uptick in these messages because of these fakes:

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That “proxy” has a real cert number so if he’s selling the card in the pic that’s an even bigger infraction than selling a fake card that’s not even pictured or with a “fake” cert.

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Better to find a decent job and stop stealing with fake PSA cases

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Frankly, it’s not deception on any level. As long as it is clearly designated as a replica card and easily discernable by anyone who would be involved in it monetarily, so it’s doing no harm to collectors. In my case, the slab is a click together that has proxy printed all across the back of the label and does not have psa branding on it anywhere and also a number that doesn’t correspond to any real card, so I’m fine with playing the devils advocate in the case of it whether or not appropriately designated fakes are a bad influence in the hobby or not. I enjoy the comedic aspect of the replica and I don’t mind having it sit on a shelf for 20 dollars compared to the 5 figures it would be for the real card. I have low grade versions of the real card and the high grade is a pipe dream that I fulfil with this. To each their own.

@jaredschallenge ,

There is no argument you can make to justify the creation, purchase, and known ownership of a counterfeit card. It is flat out wrong by all parties involved.

Blah blah blah.

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I think there is no place to dictate another person’s collection interests or views. :blush: I have solely shared my feelings and not insulted others’ views. That’s how I think the hobby should be

if the collection interest is in a result of illegal activity and questionable morality, we are within ours rights to question it :blush:

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The circle of logic feeding into that rationale isn’t relevant to my situation. So the question was answered before it was asked. Nevertheless. I don’t mind people looking out for others’ not getting scammed and I understand the frustration that some people feel by having to weed out proxy cards daily in their searching.

Would a psa 10 proxy be worth more than a psa 9 proxy?

Important questions we need answers to.

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I only buy graded 11 proxy cards: radiant spearmint 11. The second line says chew 5 gum

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