Honestly, I can’t understand why people spend so much on fake cards. With $500 you can easily pickup some solid real cards. I’m guessing for scamming purposes or maybe the buyer doesn’t understand the card is fake?
What I can’t understand is the ‘No refunds no returns’ disclaimer. Here in the UK sellers are required to accept returns within 14 days of purchase, and as a top seller you are even required to accept 30 returns on all listings.
Not the first time I see this on US listings. Does the ‘No refunds no returns’ disclaimer by the seller have any legal validity in the US in case a buyer wants to return an item, or is the seller just using it as a way to discourage buyers from returning the item?
That “proxy” has a real cert number so if he’s selling the card in the pic that’s an even bigger infraction than selling a fake card that’s not even pictured or with a “fake” cert.
Frankly, it’s not deception on any level. As long as it is clearly designated as a replica card and easily discernable by anyone who would be involved in it monetarily, so it’s doing no harm to collectors. In my case, the slab is a click together that has proxy printed all across the back of the label and does not have psa branding on it anywhere and also a number that doesn’t correspond to any real card, so I’m fine with playing the devils advocate in the case of it whether or not appropriately designated fakes are a bad influence in the hobby or not. I enjoy the comedic aspect of the replica and I don’t mind having it sit on a shelf for 20 dollars compared to the 5 figures it would be for the real card. I have low grade versions of the real card and the high grade is a pipe dream that I fulfil with this. To each their own.
There is no argument you can make to justify the creation, purchase, and known ownership of a counterfeit card. It is flat out wrong by all parties involved.
I think there is no place to dictate another person’s collection interests or views. I have solely shared my feelings and not insulted others’ views. That’s how I think the hobby should be
The circle of logic feeding into that rationale isn’t relevant to my situation. So the question was answered before it was asked. Nevertheless. I don’t mind people looking out for others’ not getting scammed and I understand the frustration that some people feel by having to weed out proxy cards daily in their searching.