Rudy just got out with print orders from CartaMundi.
Will this leaking/careless papertrail by CartaMundi affect the Pokemon market? Or do the Pokemoguls already got the papertrail Rudy got and know exactly when what is being reprinted?
Because he buys product by the pallet that paperwork was probably stuck inside the pallet somewhere. I’ve seen videos from derium back when he did a magic channel where a pallet would arrive and those print orders would be floating about inside the pallet. I don’t think there was any leaking, just careless warehouse workers.
That’s true but also TCPi gets strict with certain things as well. I’m able to see preorders on certain things from TCPi but how they run their things is also some odd stuff.
TCPi hates to see others make money off their product via the secondary market. They want to make ALL the money. Don’t be surprised when all the old rare tcpi cards get reproduced ad infinitum just to add to their coffers and destroy their collectible value.
sounds good! may aswell re print everything and re release old items stuck in warehouses.Flood the market and make everything worthless…may aswell do it with magic, and sports cards! crash every market possible!! down with capitalismm…down with everyone!! hail…the end of earth…hail the end of humanity! all rise believes of a non existent future!!! #letssavetheearthdownwithhumanity
Unfortunately in MtG there is the atrocious Reserved List. But look at how the reprints of highly asked cards go. WotC won’t destroy the value of old cards because they would be shooting themselves in the feet if they did that. Reprinting highly demanded cards in a limited release:
Sells boosters
Ensures they will sell boosters in the future with said card because, guess what, the card value will still be high
If the card value doesn’t go up x months or x years after the reprint, they won’t reprint it. They need the card price to rise again to reprint, because if they didn’t the card price would fall once again and they wouldn’t be able to sell well their future boosters with said cards.
The only people truly happy about not reprinting old cards are “investors” who think living their old days simply by selling expensive cardboard without any risk is ok. “Investing” by preventing other people to grab the cards at a reasonable price (and I’m not talking about highly collectible cards, mind you), while at the same time making threats at WotC to make sure this investment is 100% safe is nothing short of being an a***ole.
@froggy25 I have a video probably coming out early January that goes over the difference in pokemon & mtg reprints, reserve list, etc. Pokemon has reprinted artwork, but they will never reprint a 1 to 1 of older cards for numerous reasons. Also Pokemon is structured so much differently and ultimately better for everyone.
As for being down on reserve list buyouts, What is the difference in reserve list buyers and shareholders? Similar to any company, the shareholders always complain/threaten their position when they dislike a companies decision(s). I get the frustration as a player who needs a tabernacle, or something to complete a deck. But this is ultimately an open market for non-essentials. I think the saturation of modern for both hobbies is more of a threat for brick and motor storefronts. For me, the disgruntled investor is a decent barometer for the opportunity in the second hand market.
Well, the difference is that shareholders are actually giving money to the company to work with. How much did a booster pack containing Tabernacle cost at the time it was released? $2.5. The boosters were BOUGHT as PRODUCTS, nothing more. Not as shares. Thinking card hoarders are entitled to threaten a gaming company to protect their investment in cards that do not profit to WotC is ludicrous. They haven’t actually invested in WotC.
That is a good distinction between shareholders. I always wonder how much of a second hand market is comprised of collectors/investors, and how they shape a market. They are both very similar, if not identical in their market effect. This is why I don’t get bothered as much about buyouts, as collectors are naturally buying out. Then again, as someone who needs a tabernacle to complete my legends binder, maybe I should raise my fist a little higher!
Ultimately I think you need a healthy balance. Not defending the modern buyout attempts, as people complaining about their choices is something I instantly ignore. However, Rudy’s ranting is more of a reflection of the internal shit show right now with WOTC/TCPI-Distribution. Also a video I need to publish soon.
Hasbro shareholders will make crazy money when WotC is forced to start reprinting Power 9, because it will increase people to buy more product. In the past WotC added a random P9 card every X cases and it caused a hunt on everything printed; more sales.
Thing is for P9 and many reserve list cards; they not playable or totally unbalanced for current meta game. Having a Mox Jet or a Black Lotus in any deck will totally destroy any game mechanic they have developed in the past 2-3 years due to insane mana ramping. And thank god WotC only prints what’s they want to be playable, vs TCPi that just prints for sake of printing.
Hard to get past your first paragraph which is totally wrong.
Having been around back then I can personally attest to the fact that wotc didn’t know what to do about the Pokemon franchise. They blew the job after only a few short years. And this would turn into the largest TCG in history.
And your second statement about wotc destroying the market, that’s not something they could do even if they wanted. Not only can’t they reprint anything Pokemon but even if you call Chris and ask him anything about Pokemon he’ll just shrug his shoulders and say “next question”.
Finally, collectors are what kept the franchise alive through those empty/down years. Had they not been there the franchise would have gone the way of a hundred other tcg’s. They kept it alive, and collectors need something to collect. They need the 1952 Mantle or the '79 Gretzky. Take those out of the hobby, or flood the market with them, and there is no hobby.
I don’t think expanding the RL is a bad idea, I don’t play modern or standard specifically because of the aggressive reprint policy wotc has in place. If I spent 2-3k on a modern jund deck then had almost every valuable card in it reprinted in MM17 and my deck value tanked I’d be pretty pissed. Sure depending on how many times a card is reprinted along with the time between reprints some cards would rebound, but that’s not always the case, if someone bought a playset of tarmogoyf for $800 I think they’d be more than a little salty. Wotc has overdone it with reprints on a lot of cards and they’re pumping out way too many masters sets. There’s a fine line between reprinting cards to keep a format accessible and destroying the value of collections, if they’re even trying to find the right balance well they’re failing.
Destroying the value of peoples collections is a bad thing, modern used to have 30 people showing up at my LGS every week around MM15 time, now it’s dead, it doesn’t fire … sometimes 5-6 people might show up. All of the modern players got upset at their cards losing so much value after they’d saved so much to build these decks and new people are afraid to buy in because who knows what will be reprinted next. Wotc has created an unstable marketplace for the modern game and has caused a lot of players to sell out, move into legacy cards or not buy in to modern at all.
What’s funny is a lot of these modern players now play legacy, at my store legacy of all things fires every week and has every week since last year when it started and has up to 20 players showing up. Standard also used to have 30 players for 4:30pm and 7pm FNM but now only the 4:30pm fires and has less than 10 players each week. So what you have now is people not investing into standard or modern because of excessive reprinting and massive print runs causing an unstable and fearful market. At least if the RL was expanded people might be a little more comfortable knowing some of their cards will actually retain some value, and they won’t lose hundreds or even thousands of dollars a few months after buying in due to the next wave of reprints.
A lot of people these days I think are too entitled, just because someone wants a legacy or vintage deck doesn’t mean they can have one and that’s ok.