Do these EX Deoxys packs look fake?

[thatpikachuguy]

I was trying to sell these packs (elsewhere; not on E4), and a couple people told me that they looked like fake booster packs. I got them from a source I trust but it’s possible they could have acquired fakes without knowing. They are the only Deoxys packs I have ever had so I had no frame of reference; but they didn’t have any of the super obvious tells for bad counterfeits that I have come across on other occasions.

If someone has more experience with these or has some on hand to compare, please let me know what you think.

Just wanted to be sure so I don’t hurt my reputation as a seller/have to deal with a return if they do end up being fakes.

Thanks all

[acebren]

yep, fakes

[thatpikachuguy]

@acebren

yep, fakes

Is it just the coloration - or is there something else obvious I’m missing on them? Just trying to keep a better eye out in the future

[lapraslaughing]

For me the crimps are the biggest giveaways. Just google ex deoxys packs and compare the art always goes over the crimp these here cut go straight to silver

[thatpikachuguy]

That’s a good point - I hadn’t noticed that. Appreciate the quick responses.

[mcorey777]

@thatpikachuguy

That’s a good point - I hadn’t noticed that. Appreciate the quick responses.

Wow so sorry to see this is there a way of getting a refund?

[thatpikachuguy]

@mcorey777

@thatpikachuguy

That’s a good point - I hadn’t noticed that. Appreciate the quick responses.

Wow so sorry to see this is there a way of getting a refund?

Luckily I got them from a close friend who I am sure was not aware they aren’t legit - so I’ll get the money I had into them back. But not what they would have been worth today unfortunately

[fourthstartcg]

They look fake to me, the art and color just seems off and out of focus. I think that’s the biggest giveaway.

Only one way to find out for sure though…

[Pbali]

Echoing what was said above. They also look much shorter than the packs that I have.

[thatpikachuguy]

So I sent one of these booster packs (Rayquaza) to PSA to verify whether they were fakes or not, as that was the agreement between myself and the person I bought them off of originally in order to determine how to deal with it; that they would pay for one pack to be sent off and if it was sent back as fake I would be reimbursed for the original rate I got them at. I was comfortable with this because they are a trusted business partner and I knew it was never an intention to sell me fakes.

In the intermediate months, that person actually bought out my sealed pack collection including the other two Deoxys booster packs - with the contingency that I would still be reimbursed for the three in the eventuality that this came back as a fake pack.

Fast forward to today - I got an email that the pack was graded as a PSA 9. So in this event, I retain the pack when it ships back to me, but I don’t want to sell it now if it’s a fake.

So my question now is do you all think:
A. PSA graded a fake pack (not great)
or
B. It was actually an authentic pack with a different printing quality on the wrapper and PSA knows best.

Essentially, what do I do with it?

I sent it off under the assumption that it was a fake booster after the opinions shared here and that I would deal with being reimbursed for them down the road - but now I’m stuck in a situation where I don’t get reimbursed per the agreement I went into, and I am also potentially left with a valueless asset I cant do anything with.

My friend/business partner was very convinced that they were authentic, regardless of the other opinions I brought to him from online communities, so this will just reaffirm his stance on that. Kinda sounds like I’ll most likely just be out of luck on the whole deal, but just thought I’d share my experience

[krill]

@thatpikachuguy

So I sent one of these booster packs (Rayquaza) to PSA to verify whether they were fakes or not, as that was the agreement between myself and the person I bought them off of originally in order to determine how to deal with it; that they would pay for one pack to be sent off and if it was sent back as fake I would be reimbursed for the original rate I got them at. I was comfortable with this because they are a trusted business partner and I knew it was never an intention to sell me fakes.

In the intermediate months, that person actually bought out my sealed pack collection including the other two Deoxys booster packs - with the contingency that I would still be reimbursed for the three in the eventuality that this came back as a fake pack.

Fast forward to today - I got an email that the pack was graded as a PSA 9. So in this event, I retain the pack when it ships back to me, but I don’t want to sell it now if it’s a fake.

So my question now is do you all think:
A. PSA graded a fake pack (not great)
or
B. It was actually an authentic pack with a different printing quality on the wrapper and PSA knows best.

Essentially, what do I do with it?

I sent it off under the assumption that it was a fake booster after the opinions shared here and that I would deal with being reimbursed for them down the road - but now I’m stuck in a situation where I don’t get reimbursed per the agreement I went into, and I am also potentially left with a valueless asset I cant do anything with.

My friend/business partner was very convinced that they were authentic, regardless of the other opinions I brought to him from online communities, so this will just reaffirm his stance on that. Kinda sounds like I’ll most likely just be out of luck on the whole deal, but just thought I’d share my experience

PSA has graded fake packs before. At this point it seems like your best bet is to just open one. Have you weighed them yet?

[kingboo64]

@thatpikachuguy

So I sent one of these booster packs (Rayquaza) to PSA to verify whether they were fakes or not, as that was the agreement between myself and the person I bought them off of originally in order to determine how to deal with it; that they would pay for one pack to be sent off and if it was sent back as fake I would be reimbursed for the original rate I got them at. I was comfortable with this because they are a trusted business partner and I knew it was never an intention to sell me fakes.

In the intermediate months, that person actually bought out my sealed pack collection including the other two Deoxys booster packs - with the contingency that I would still be reimbursed for the three in the eventuality that this came back as a fake pack.

Fast forward to today - I got an email that the pack was graded as a PSA 9. So in this event, I retain the pack when it ships back to me, but I don’t want to sell it now if it’s a fake.

So my question now is do you all think:
A. PSA graded a fake pack (not great)
or
B. It was actually an authentic pack with a different printing quality on the wrapper and PSA knows best.

Essentially, what do I do with it?

I sent it off under the assumption that it was a fake booster after the opinions shared here and that I would deal with being reimbursed for them down the road - but now I’m stuck in a situation where I don’t get reimbursed per the agreement I went into, and I am also potentially left with a valueless asset I cant do anything with.

My friend/business partner was very convinced that they were authentic, regardless of the other opinions I brought to him from online communities, so this will just reaffirm his stance on that. Kinda sounds like I’ll most likely just be out of luck on the whole deal, but just thought I’d share my experience

Those are definitely fake. As someone who owns ex packs, the crimp is not right at all. I’d buy the pack as proof that psa sucks though

[thatpikachuguy]

@kingboo64 that was my thought too. Was supposed to be my clarification to settle a mistake, and ended up just causing more depth of problems.

Guess I’ll just have a fake pack encapsulated for no reason lol

[kingboo64]

@thatpikachuguy

@kingboo64 that was my thought too. Was supposed to be my clarification to settle a mistake, and ended up just causing more depth of problems.

Guess I’ll just have a fake pack encapsulated for no reason lol

Which art is it

Edit: never mind saw it’s rayquaza. I’d buy it though

[thatpikachuguy]

@kingboo64

@thatpikachuguy

@kingboo64 that was my thought too. Was supposed to be my clarification to settle a mistake, and ended up just causing more depth of problems.

Guess I’ll just have a fake pack encapsulated for no reason lol

Which art is it

Edit: never mind saw it’s rayquaza. I’d buy it though

Rayquaza pack art - I’ll post some pictures here when I have it in hand again

I’m probably open to letting it go as long as I know it won’t ever find its way back to market masquerading as an authentic pack

[casual]

Lmaoo. I want to see this fake pack graded, another “win” for BSA

[kingboo64]

@thatpikachuguy

@kingboo64

Which art is it

Edit: never mind saw it’s rayquaza. I’d buy it though

Rayquaza pack art - I’ll post some pictures here when I have it in hand again

I’m probably open to letting it go as long as I know it won’t ever find its way back to market masquerading as an authentic pack

Cool, I’ll dm you. Don’t worry as I have no intention of selling

[thatpikachuguy]

@krill never weighed them, and can’t open one now as I returned the other two to the seller when he bought out my sealed pack collection. Only one I own will be the one in the psa case.

I should have just ripped one in the first place instead of all the hassle, but too late for that now

[kingboo64]

@casual

Lmaoo. I want to see this fake pack graded, another “win” for BSA

Someone needs to send it to him once we get some pictures

[pieterpie]

Does PSA have some guarantee on the packs for authenticating them? Similar to on grades, where they will make up for the difference if they grade a card as a 10 but it is truly a 6.