Lets have a talk about HGSS booster boxes ( Heartgold Soulsilver, Unleashed, Undaunted,Triumphant ). Currently price level for each seems to be around $200, do you see drastic change happening in couple following years ( similar what ex series is going through ) or will they be forgotten by collectors for good? 
In my opinion, forgotten just like most of the DP + Platinum sets. Itās a shame, because this was when I really got into collecting and bought hundreds of Platinum, Rising Rivals and Supreme Victors.
Theres just not enough if any huge cards from these sets worth anything I donāt think. Level X, Prime and Legend cards just donāt cut it.
Call of Legends seems to be doing well though.
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I agree with Call of Legends, already gaining similar prices as popular B&W boxes ( Dark Explorers, Plasma Storm ).
Iām betting in the opposite direction. I believe HGSS-era URs will be seen as the last of the beautiful URs before CGI got too out of hand. I expect primes will go up in price and legends will go up dramatically. Lithographs suck so no hope for those. But I also expect it will be another three to five years before this really happens.
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As far as new boxes goes, CoL, Plasma Storm Legendary Treasures and Flashfire are always the ones to go.
Dark Explorers + Roaring Skies pretty good too.
As for DP/Platinum, I guess Supreme Victors, Legends Awakened and Stormfront would be your best bet if any off the top of my head.
No clue really about HGSS, just wasnāt enticing for me 
Secret Wonders holoās also seem to fetch more than other sets. It also has a lot of populair PokĆ©mon: Lugia, Charizard, Blastoise, Ho-Oh, Mewā¦
Having a similar feeling as well, maybe $350-$400 per box but thatās pretty much it without help from graded Primes/Legends that would sell for hundreds of dollars ( one in a million chance 
). Hoping for the best anyways.
+1 to this
I donāt see them really ever gaining any traction. These, the B&W era, and even the more modern sets will always be an afterthought IMO.
Really good opinions in this thread so far. Iām a bit conflicted about the HGSS block. It was the one that got a lot of us back into the hobby. With that said though, the entire block contains no heavily desired chase cards, perhaps maybeeee the Legends. Primes are all around $4 each, and the holos are what, $2? Thereās just no value in the packs.
I also heavily agree with what Churlocker said. The art is stunning. The traditional Japanese style art is phenomenal, especially when contrasted to the oversaturated CGI garbage being pumped out from BW onwards. I think the driving force behind the increasing box values of these sets is due to the overall theme, and feeling of semi-nostalgia.
Dp/Pt block is all over the shop. Some sets/cards are great (Stormfront), while others (Rising Rivals) feel generic and boring.
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Iām with churlocker as well on the topic of the art. However, is it just me, or were URs so much easier to pull from HGSS era boxes. I remember getting all the primes and then some in most boxes. I think that Call of Legends will at least continue to trend upwards
There werenāt as many URs to pull, which made it easier to near a full set from a box or two. That might be what made it feel that way.
Itās worth noting that $4 is a massive price increase. There was no extended format for competitive play when the HGSS-era was rotated, so players were bulking out nearly all primes between $1-2 each, with the $2-3 price range only applying to cards like mew, umbreon, and other desirable pokemon. So a $4 price tag is a 400% increase for most primes. Thatās insane for a sub-5 year return, which is a typical vestment period.
Its also worth noting that the legends have seen at least two significant price jumps since their bulking out period at $3-5 each.
Itās hard to remember how inexpensive cards were prior to the introduction of EXs, but if we are talking strictly return on investment, the HGSS block is already doing incredibly well.
This said, the value of the cards relative to their current sealed state is always a different conversation. Cards have to have a very high value to justify opening a box of any type, save new sets when the boxes are at their lowest price point. This is just the nature of sealed product.
As of right now, the the HGSS series is a sleeper set. Not sure where it will go as the supply is different than earlier sets.
What were the exact pull rate for English Primes per box?
The only issue I could see is that Primes might not be rare enough to follow the trend of gold stars or shining cards. I remember going to target, and they had these odd packs with a holo on the front. I remember buying one that had donphan prime on the front. In fact majority had primes on the front.
I am not sure how many are out there, and if the demand can grow enough to negate the supply. Especially since the rarer legends cards are insanely cheap for their rarity. I have a good amount of these from larger orders that just sit as they are literally not worth selling.
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Donphan and Yanmega prime were reprinted as collection promos. That may have been what you saw.
This was before the reprint. I remember getting a couple donphan and selling one the same day for $25 before the reprinted promos killed the prices.
Am I understanding this correctly: You just got lucky and found a valuable prime in the front of a third party repackaged bundle at a big box retailer?
No, they each had a holo card and/or prime card on the front that was loose. I bought the ones that had donphan prime shown on the front. The rest of the cards were loose as well. It was an odd āpackā, I think $9.99 was the price. You could tell the front holo card was random, as some packs had worthless holo cards on the front and there wasnāt really much of a pattern. I remember buying a couple with primes on the front as they made their money back and I could keep a copy of the primes.
That is just a third party repackage. There is no real pattern to them because the company producing them doesnāt have any knowledge of the relative values of the cards included. Every so often someone shares a picture of a valuable card in one on Virbank. I wouldnāt consider them indicative of any given market trend or product availability.
Oh Iām not doubting the upwards movement of Primes at all. I remember after rotation when most were $2. Though since that time, nearly every other type of ultra rare has appreciated much more in value. Maybe not as much in terms of %, but if weāre looking at it from an investment standpoint, Iād rather have my capital tied up in a Crystal Charizard or something rather than 100 Primes 
Absolutely! It would be much more effort. I think that gets at the concept Alpha Investments mentioned. With a box, you get all of the appreciation and a fraction of the effort/costs to sell compared to a stack of singles.
However, if people have less total capital and need a cheaper option, or have exhausted one avenue of investment for their comfort level, I wouldnāt call these a bad option. The best option? Not likely. But not a bad option.
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IMO, I see CoL shinies going up significantly (esp. Ho-Oh and maybe Lugia) and maybe Legend Cards as well. The Primes have nice artwork, but they remind me of EX cardsānothing special like the Legend Artwork and nothing unusual like a different color pokemon. That said, I still see them going up a tad bit in the future because the artwork is amazing (unlike Lv.Xs and reprints which I predict will stay at their current prices). Maybe $10-$25 depending on the card max. Then again, I could be completely wrong about everything 