Curious to know what people would think about Hidden Fates ETB over time, will it hit ATH again? can it go beyond?
I believe so! Prices on ETBs were stuck around 130-140 usd for many years but finally seem to be getting past this price point now? Important to remember the RRP for these were 50 usd and hence are already >3x in 4 years. I expect them to continue grinding higher absent another reprint (highly unlikely now).
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moved to itās own thread so you can get more attention.
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The major thing going for Hidden Fates is its propensity to evoke nostalgia. A lot of adult collectors got back into Pokemon around Hidden Fatesā release or right after. Itās likely to be desirable in the future when those collectors reenter the hobby or look back fondly on that time period.
Itās not my cup of tea, but I see why many people would want to buy it in the future.
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I myself haveānt gotten into an etb yet but the tins. I feel people are sleeping on it currently? Seems like the spotlights are off for the moment on them. But i better rip one ETB before its too much for me
I think hidden fates is a great example of how fast modern moves. Everyone and their dog was talking about this set a couple years ago, now they all moved onto the next thing. I will say the market felt more rational back then, where today itās even more stonk fueled. Regardless, the opportunity cost of pokemon pumping out endless beautiful alt arts is previous modern chase cards get lost in the fog.
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4 years later and many bubbles later, the chase card, the mighty shiny Charizard is still around the same price.
A lot of stonkers are not ready for this but this is the faith and reailty of all their modern alt arts / chase cards too.
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Iād be interested to know what people think the future of etbs are in general. I guess sets that donāt get boxes and etbs would be good but moderns not that expensive so idk why youād pay 40$ for 8 packs when you can get 36 packs for like 110$
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ETBās make sense for when there isnāt a a booster box, which was the case for hidden fates. But I think they are over represented in popularity by being one of the easiest items to buy.
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You probably get a higher dollarāper-pack amount with an ETB simply because itās going to be a less expensive product. Less expensive = more accessible = more competition. In the same way a WOTC box is basically always worth more opened than sealed. The drawback is the amount of packs-per-sqft is a lot smaller for an ETB.
But yeah in this case there is no booster box option anyway.
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I know a few hardcore ETB collectors and they do it because they love the artwork on the box.
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Iām an English collector but dang Iāll admit weāre starved for good sealed product art
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Exactly my thought. Instead of spending hundreds of dollars on an XY-era ETB, those collectors might get a better bang for their buck if they switched to Japanese booster box artwork. 
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I would choose the premium of a Japanese box over an ETB any day of the week.
Not XY era, but this box is my all time favorite and it destroys its ETB counterpart. Japanese boxes just hit different.
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When I completed my ETB collection it was because the art on the front was pretty good, and it was manageable to complete a sealed set of them.
With all the PC releases and how many are put out per year, I wouldnāt try and complete a set today given how much space the damn things take up.
To keep on topic, I donāt expect any big spikes in the next few years for HF ETBs, maybe slow slow and steady growth. Agree with the others above that while the set was so much fun to open at the time, art rares and alt arts make full art shiny pokemon a bit less appealing, at least for me.
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I came back at the tail end of 2019. Hidden Fates brought me back to PokƩmon after leaving during the Neo era.
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Hidden Fates was also the first set I went out to stores to look for. I wish I had bought moreā¦Black Friday 2019 had lots of $10 tins
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Is anything really that expensive as a single that you wouldnāt just grab the single instead? Not that most people buying sealed stuff at way over MSRP are opening it, but still.
With any WOTC-DPP sealed booster box you know thereās a decent chance you get something good out of it even if itās still not worth opening.
SM-SWSH and especially ETBs are just horrible. No guarantees of anything, too many chase cards.
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ive always heard from two different perspectives of people, either they would like to play the smart move to just buy singles or they would instead buy the ETB for the whole experience again. im actually observing that people tend to lean towards ripping packs. though i also agree that buying singles would be smart.
Im beginning to feel that HF ETBs would definitely hold strong in the experience of ripping its packs and acquiring the promos down the road, especially for people who came back to the hobby during its peak. It would be revisited again once awhile in my opinion.
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