Grading a PSA 10 1st Edition Base set charizard

[machampion]

Hey all,

Just wondering if anyone has, or know anyone who has graded a PSA 10 1st ed base zard lately?

Just seems its becoming less possible, not sure if they have stricter grading criteria nowadays,

Obviously won’t even be many people getting them graded as they slowly disappear. But just wondering

if anyone has had any luck lately? For arguments sake, is it even worth opening a 1st ed booster box to go for the

psa 10 zard? Seems near impossible these days.

[KingPokemon]

Not many in gem condition around for sure,

As far as finding one in a pack, the odds say you’ll get one in every 45 packs IF they are not weighed.

[effofexx]

@KingPokemon

Not many in gem condition around for sure,

As far as finding one in a pack, the odds say you’ll get one in every 45 packs IF they are not weighed.

One in 45? Those odds are way better than I would have expected, even assuming unweighed packs. This brings to mind a few questions about odds for this set:

1. Are these the odds of pulling a PSA 10, or just a 1st edition Charizard in any condition? I assume it’s the latter. Otherwise, you would be practically guaranteed to pull a Charizard in every box (probably multiple) right?
2. Does this mean that one could expect to complete the 1st edition base set with ~45 unweighed packs, or does this specifically apply to Charizard? In other words, is there another card in the set that is actually more difficult to pull?
3. Do these odds differ from Base Set Unlimited?

Sorry if these questions seem pretty basic to some of you guys, but I’ve spent no time whatsoever opening unweighed 1st edition Base Set cards, or even watching other people do it on YouTube.

[gottaketchumall]

@effofexx that is the odds of just pulling a charizard in general. You are correct in that your odds of a 10 would be much lower.

There are 15 holos in the set (machamp is starter deck only). Then you have a 1/3 chance per pack of a holo. You’d expect then 1 charizard every 45 packs on average. I think something like 10%-20% of them would be 10’s though so now open 450 packs and you’ll have 10 charizards, ~1-2 of which is a 10. Probably 5-6 of which are 9’s and 2-4 8’s.

[handschoen]

@gottaketchumall

@effofexx that is the odds of just pulling a charizard in general. You are correct in that your odds of a 10 would be much lower.

There are 15 holos in the set (machamp is starter deck only). Then you have a 1/3 chance per pack of a holo. You’d expect then 1 charizard every 45 packs on average. I think something like 10%-20% of them would be 10’s though so now open 450 packs and you’ll have 10 charizards, ~1-2 of which is a 10. Probably 5-6 of which are 9’s and 2-4 8’s.

With a calculation like that and a box now going for $70k+ you need to open six boxes for one 10! That is $420k worth of boxes which you will never get back (yes you also get other cards from the box, but not $300k worth…).

How was it possible a couple of years ago sealed boxes went for prices below single card prices you got for the box?!

[thecardguyz]

@handschoen

@gottaketchumall

@effofexx that is the odds of just pulling a charizard in general. You are correct in that your odds of a 10 would be much lower.

There are 15 holos in the set (machamp is starter deck only). Then you have a 1/3 chance per pack of a holo. You’d expect then 1 charizard every 45 packs on average. I think something like 10%-20% of them would be 10’s though so now open 450 packs and you’ll have 10 charizards, ~1-2 of which is a 10. Probably 5-6 of which are 9’s and 2-4 8’s.

With a calculation like that and a box now going for $70k+ you need to open six boxes for one 10! That is $420k worth of boxes which you will never get back (yes you also get other cards from the box, but not $300k worth…).

How was it possible a couple of years ago sealed boxes went for prices below single card prices you got for the box?!

The market corrected itself very quickly.

[xdarkfenixx]

@handschoen

@gottaketchumall

@effofexx that is the odds of just pulling a charizard in general. You are correct in that your odds of a 10 would be much lower.

There are 15 holos in the set (machamp is starter deck only). Then you have a 1/3 chance per pack of a holo. You’d expect then 1 charizard every 45 packs on average. I think something like 10%-20% of them would be 10’s though so now open 450 packs and you’ll have 10 charizards, ~1-2 of which is a 10. Probably 5-6 of which are 9’s and 2-4 8’s.

With a calculation like that and a box now going for $70k+ you need to open six boxes for one 10! That is $420k worth of boxes which you will never get back (yes you also get other cards from the box, but not $300k worth…).

How was it possible a couple of years ago sealed boxes went for prices below single card prices you got for the box?!

just out of curiosity, how many years ago was that?

[handschoen]

This year I guess, but that is iffffff you can find a box for that price. Since there are no for sale I think you will have a hard time finding 6 boxes . It was meant all hypothetical anyway.