I just came across a highly-rated eBay seller (more like a bait & switch - he posts on fbm but then directs you to its ebay listing with already like $900 in bids). His 400+ active listings of rare Pokemon cards, are almost exclusively (1) PSA graded and (2) autographed by Mitsuhiro Arita.
I checked out some of his Arita signed cards and immediately noticed a huge discrepancy indicative of forgery. A large subset of his Arita signatures incorrectly display dates in the âdd/mm/yyâ format (ex/ 14/2/22). This is NEVER used in Japan (or Asia in general), which uses the mm/dd/yy format (2/14/22). His other Arita listings do show dates in the correct âmm/dd/yyâ format, which is customary for Japanese signatures.
The wrong date format (dd/mm is used mostly in Europe) contradicted by his other Arita signed cards showing the correct âmm/dd/yyâ date format, to me is conclusive proof that all the dd/mm auto listings are likely forged, which in turn raises doubt on the authenticity of all his autograph listings, which are currently heavily bidded in 3-4 figures rnage
Are there Arita fans/collectors with more insight on how he signs dates? I just cant see a Japanese person signing dates like â14.2.23,â especially when his other autos show â2.14.23.â
Which has the dd/mm/yy format, that OP says is fake . It is complete and utter conjecture and clearly nonsense.
E: clicking the provided examples reveals even more nonsense, in the âcorrect formatâ is one that could be legit date in either format and one that has the European format (so even an example of âcorrectâ has the âincorrectâ format).
It seems his last signing in paris wasnât well advertised and so people were getting 4/5 autos a day as there wasnât a big queue.
Those are all dated the correct* way to do a date - dd/mm/yy or more accurately he has probably switched to doing them in the way the country he is in does the date.
just making fun of anyone saying itâs right and wrong
Very interesting, I wonder if Arita has a set date style based on the Country he is signing at.
@kijamon, thatâs really amazing and lucky for those folks in Paris. I would have loved to have that happen, unfortunately Paris is a bit far for me.
On a side note of fake autos, have you folks seen this Midori Harada Eevee that looks like it was signed in the future? The month and date seem to line up with one of her events, but the year is definitely off as we are still in 2023. Do you think Harada might have signed this card first thing in the morning and accidentally write 24 instead of 23? If I was an artist, I would have probably redone it on a different card and take it if it wasnât a card of value. I canât believe PSA authenticated it as well. Like if someone had a video of their signing experience and sent that then ya, I would authenticate it. But to see something dated in the future and get the stamo of approvalâŚI donât knowâŚ
The fact that most of them are cringy af signed âĺŽă¸â (to Treasure) also reeks of reseller behavior. Which ironically and sadly is an indication of authenticity.
Yes this is what I think happened with the card in question. There were plenty of small mistakes this weekend, some people got cards without personalization. She was signing 5 cards per person so it was a huge volume and some small mistakes were made.
I donât think PSA cares except checking if the autograph is authentic. They arenât going to check historical accuracies of whatever someone writes.
Ah ya it would be a little too much work on the grading serviceâs half. Plus they wouldnât know if it was signed outside of an event. Itâs kind of neat that Harada would sign 5. Although, Iâm not really a fan of some of her autos But if she ever made an effort to come to Hawaii, I would definitely see her.
I donât see the purpose of this thread, its like saying all the copies on PWCC are fake as theyâre multiple listed every week. Just because Nathan wants to consign all his gold stars doesnât mean theyâre forged. It just sounds like a baseless conspiracy, if the autos were not graded and had no provenance behind it maybe an argument can be made.
The point of the thread is to confirm or reject the claim made on Reddit. It was done in the first post. Itâs still a useful discussion to someone who may be new to autographs and havenât thought deeply about how you would respond to this claim.