I was wondering if anyone knows the pull rate for the new hyper rare cards that will be released in Sun and Moon this February? Also, I would love to get peoples’ thoughts on the value of these cards and if you think they will become like a new version of the shining cards or gold star cards. So pumped for Sun and Moon base set 
The Hyper rares havent been officially confirmed to have been printed with the english set. Even if they are printed in english to many of them will be printed to make them as valuable as gold stars down the line.
All speculation at this point I think but based on the openings that I’m aware of the Secret Rare cards are going to be a pain in the ass to complete a set of. I’m kind of disappointed they dropped the pull rates, increased the number of available ultra rare cards and used all the Ultra Rare GXs as Secret Rares.
As for value… I honestly don’t have a good handle on how these cards will be valued. You’d think demand should outpace the pull rate considerably if the pull rates are really bad. But I think a number of them won’t be as desirable so price should reflect that…
Since Pokemon is still booming it would not surprise me if this set gets printed to oblivian. If thats the case even with low pull rates the secret rares should still be decently priced.
I don’t think set production works like that really. No set is printed into oblivion. They ramp up and produce more based on demand for X amount of time. Now if players are buying tons of packs looking for 1, 2 or 5 specific cards then the other cards will take a hit while those desirable cards would cost a fortune with the low pull rates. There won’t be as many people buying this set for nostalgia reasons as we had with Evolutions.
I would agree with you had the Roaring Skies reprint not happened. Nintendo in my opinion is figuring out that theres alot of money to be made if they continue to just keep printing sets. Pokemon is really popular right now and the market for sealed product is strong, thus I can see sun and moon base set being way over printed. Not to mention everyone is gonna be cracking boxes for the secret rares so that will drive print runs up as well.
True, I can understand that point. But on the flip side they aren’t reprinting sets that are out of rotation (yet). And I doubt they ever will.
If resellers can’t make money on the cards found in the boxes then that’s a big hit to the market. So if prices stay high more people will buy boxes. If prices of the secret rares is un-profitable for box crackers then a large chunk of people will stop buying. Similarly if there is only 1 card everyone is after and it’s 1 per 6 cases you’ll have less people buying boxes and more people buying singles (thus driving up prices). I’m curious how the player market is going to affect this set in both the short and long term.
Anyone collect the current Japanese hyper rates? For as nice looking of a card that it is and it’s rarity, I have not heard the hype one would expect from such a great looking new feel to the series of Pokémon cards. Any thoughts? Thank you.
… or maybe it’s just me that’s missing something here?
I pulled two Hyper Rares out of 6 Japanese boxes but a member here said I was very very lucky. One thing I did notice was that the rate for UR, HR and SR felt about the same I might be wrong I haven’t heard more from other members. In conclusion, lot of the cards I had to buy individually in order to finish the sets.
Yeah that’s about what happened to me. I did 3 boxes and pulled 1 Liunala hyper rare. It was an awesome looking card and the dopamine levels rose nicely when I pulled it. One of my favorite pulls of all time if I had to say.
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I do like the color palette of the SRs too.
HR Confirmed:
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So we are thinking so far that the pull rate it 3 boxes ?
any speculation on price for PSA 10s at this point ?
These were from the pre-release packs, so I don’t know the pull rates, but the owner did trade for some.
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Is it just me or does it appear that the hyper rates in the English sun and moon are less rare than the Japanese hyper rares? If I were to guess the pull ratio based on the videos I have seen I would say you get a hyper rare at least 1:2 boxes for English but in Japanese it appeared you may get 1 or 2 in every case… just my observation and opinion.
I’m relatively new to the market: Has it happened in the past that prerelease packs had different pull ratios than later packs?
I’m thinking that they are possibly hyping up people for the Hyper Rares, but that would also be a not so nice move, so to say.
Pre-release kits don’t have the same pull ratios as boxes. It’s more or less random.
You’re going to have to wait and the first few to come out will probably be overpriced or sell at stupidly hyped prices because it’s a new rarity scheme.
Espeon and Umbreon PSA 10 will probably be worth picking up in a few months but people are just going to throw money at them straight out of the gate.