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whats the cert number? in general older grades tend to have been held to a lower standard than more recent slabs. Also that is a lot of damage, usually a dent = automatic 6
I would contact PSA to enact the grade guarantee.
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I don’t want to open this can of worms again, but this is incorrect. You’ll find bad grades regardless of the cert number.
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my bad, I was misinformed
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Could it be a pinched/damaged card during encapsulation? I’ve already seen similar dents in other threads.
Also, out of curiosity, how does it look in the scans?
I agree. Even knowing where to look, it’s crazy difficult/impossible to spot them
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Usually I like to stay away from the term
misgrade within grading since each grader follows a general guideline and have their own individual opinions on what grade a card can be.
However this to me I would definitely call a misgrade due to the bottom indent. This looks like it happened during encapsulation if I had to guess.
I’ve seen small dents like the one above the “p” on cards in all different grades, so I strongly doubt they would have paid out just for that, but the bottom dent has a very good chance of PSA enacting their grade guarantee as that looks like damage.
Good luck in deciding what action you’ll take.
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For $2000 I would not be happy with the damage on the bottom edge
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If it was just the dent under the P then maybe you could argue just a weak psa 10, but the dent on the corner is egregious. Definitely a misgrade.
In my opinion the seller should have specified this damage. I would attempt a refund if possible, this card definitely is not worth the PSA10 premium you paid.
You could also try and contact PSA. In theory if you sent it in for a reholder/grade check and they deemed it now less than a 10 they would pay you the difference in value. But im not sure how that would go really
Nah this is on PSA to reimburse the buyer. Especially since the major damage here looks like a crimp from encapsulation.
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Have you / anyone you know actually had success with this?
For example ; you purchase this treecko
Its clearly not a 10, it must’ve been a mistake that got past QA.
In theory youd be able to buy it for a low price since the seller knows its not really a 10, you then complain to PSA and get reimbursed?
( btw this is NOT my listing haha )
although i do see it more frequently with different periods of certs…
a lot of poor quality 10’s pre 3 cert, again late 5/6 cert and then more recently late 8/ early 9 certs.
thats just from what i see anyway!
The reason why PSA does upcharges, and arguably is so strict on high value items is entirely because of their financial guarantee. Sure it might be like getting insurance to provide a payout, but its better chance than badgering the seller. Especially if this was through ebay or any major platform, the seller won’t be responsible.
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agree, but i also think if the seller sold this slab and knew about the damage on the card; they should enclose it.
It’s just bad practise otherwise.
Yes, it is a misgrade. It would be a PSA 6 with that large of an indent. Contact PSA to get reimbursed via their Grade Guarantee. They will regrade the card and pay out the difference between grades.
This is not the seller’s fault. The seller sold a card graded by PSA. It is PSA’s responsibility to honor their Grade Guarantee and reimburse the buyer for buying a misgraded card.
Sellers do not need to disclose the condition of graded cards. That’s the whole purpose of grading cards. At that point, it is the responsibility of the grading company to honor their service guarantee.
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Bad grades regardless of the cert number, yes.
“More” bad grades in older certs Vs newer ones? Yes too.
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Definitely a miss grade. Dents do not mean automatic 6 if the card is minty though, sometime can be a 7.
But that it NOT a 10.
General consensus among collectors