Any sense for what one might expect to pay for one of these? Assuming it was guaranteed to be a no symbol error box… been struggling to find a sense of pricing. Any help is appreciated!
No symbol cards aren’t particularly pricey. Definitely a slight hike on the unlimited holos but not as high as 1st ed. Is there a way of verifying a no symbol booster box? Even if opening one of the packs, would that be a guarantee that the rest of the box is no symbol?
We can come to a solid estimate by how much the single cards in that set sell for in a gem mint grade. The Jolteon no symbol psa 10 sells for around 2k. The Vaporeon no symbol gem mint sells for around 3k. The flareon no symbol sells for around $750+, the kangaskhan no symbol gets asking prices of $1,200 now but hasent sold for that much but its up there. A lot of these cards are popular very low population cards, and seeing as how much theyre selling for graded individually I would estimate a booster box goes for 7k+ and thats a low estimate Im sure it would go for more. Rare booster to have nowadays
No such thing as a “No Symbol Booster Box”.
No Symbols come from Long Crimp unlimited Jungle packs. So the Distributor case is technically the “booster box”.
Since light packs obviously don’t have No Symbols in them. I’m assuming if someone had confirmed their packs from a box had them, they would have to sell heavies. PokemonRevolution was selling these consistently for around $250-$300 a pack, a year or two ago.
24 heavies x $300 = $7200. Thats the low range imo, I would be asking more for them.
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Jungle no symbols are going for more than 1st editions now. At least the vaporeon, jolteon, kangaskhan, Clefable, Wigglytuff, Pinsir, Flareon etc… are more pricey or on par with 1st eds due to the low pop and interest in those cards. And yes youre right unlimited holos have bumped now noticeably so.
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You sure? I think I’ve seen at least two videos of sealed no symbol boxes being opened. GemMintPokemon did one not too long ago didn’t he.
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Damn, I just picked up a mint raw copy for cheap recently too. Making me nervous about my next submission lol
(wow I just saw that it auctioned publicly for 1.6k recently…)
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You’re wrong, I’ve gotten them out of short crimp regular booster box.
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Jeez. I didn’t realise they had gone up that much. It’s strange because they seem to sell lower in the UK. I just remember seeing a Flareon go for around £300 a couple of months back and assumed that the price point was up there with the other eevelutions and other chase cards - my mistake though!
I’ve had 72ish short crimp No symbol packs.
That being said they came loose in a large distributors box not a booster box.
Still short crimp but no booster box.
I’ve herd them coming from long crimp personally never seen.
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How’d they do at PSA? 
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Either way people, they don’t come from normal Booster boxes. Short crimp or not.
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Yup that flareon sold for around $400 because there was major silvering on the card and it was listed cheaper purposely because the card didnt hold up too well in its psa case. Showing visible wear and not the prospect of a psa 10 anymore. That card was sold by ebirdman and he listed it noticeably cheaper for that reason. Hes a good guy for not trying to juke people and sell it for full price. Unless youre talking about another sale. And youre also right that in the uk it is cheaper
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Has anyone figured out a 100% guarantee for no symbol packs?
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No symbols are extremely weird… when I was trying to find a way to tell I went through just about every jungle pack opening on youtube. Here is an example of a box containing both no symbol and regular unlimited holos: Pokemon Jungle Booster Box Opening Pt. 1 - YouTube.
Regular holo Mr. Mime @2:06 and then no symbol venomoth @2:50.
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@mojotbone, Good catch! He just breezed by that Venomoth! Wotc honestly is hard to figure out as they didn’t plan any of this stuff.
Amazing catch !! 
Value is going to be tough to establish.
Snorlax No Symbol PSA 10 sold on December 19th, 2019 for $1250. Throwing that out there first since I have a vested interest in these cards.
Value is hard to establish given the unique nature of these error packs and the lack of hard data to go off of. They were definitely produced in mass but are absolutely harder to find than Unlimited or 1st Edition packs. The provenance is what will give buyers confidence that the packs are for sure No Symbol or you can put a guarantee on their contents and take the risk selling them that way like @pokemonrevolution did.
There are boxes that have No Symbols in them but there’s no sure way to know without opening. At least we think. Gemmintpokemon gives a good once over of his No Symbol box for sale in this video and again, provenance is everything: link (22:20)
I’ve opened well over 100 No Symbol packs and they all came from the distributor cases of 400+ packs that people have mentioned. However, these are not the long flapped hole punched packs for hanging on shelves. I’ve never seen those be opened with No Symbols but there very well could be some out there. There was an Ebay seller with these distributor cases of the regular looking, No Symbol containing packs being sold as regular Unllimited packs for some time. I purchased lots off of him over the course of a year or so and opened almost all of them. Every one I opened was a No Symbol and almost every one was graded. Only one time did I open a “heavy” pack and not pull a holo but never was there a holo with a Jungle stamp. These packs are the same ones @tcgcaravan had. He opened some too and I bought what he had left in 2019. You can go check his Instagram for more on his lot and a video from that day opening a random pack to verify. The double error pack opened in @smpratte video here was from the same lot of packs. The Vaporeon went on to grade a 10 and sell for $2700 on Ebay. I still can’t believe that pack. Crazy! For some context I graded six pack pulled Vaporeons a PSA 9 before finally getting a 10 on the seventh. Must have been those damn hard to grade early certs, haha.
26276731 MINT 9 1999 Pokemon Jungle 12 Vaporeon-Holo No Symbol
26749445 MINT 9 1999 Pokemon Jungle 12 Vaporeon-Holo No Symbol
27102888 MINT 9 1999 Pokemon Jungle 12 Vaporeon-Holo No Symbol
27102889 MINT 9 1999 Pokemon Jungle 12 Vaporeon-Holo No Symbol
27949104 MINT 9 1999 Pokemon Jungle 12 Vaporeon-Holo No Symbol
41150593 GEM MINT 10 1999 Pokemon Jungle 12 Vaporeon-Holo No Symbol
Here’s what the packs look like:
Hopefully that helps clear up any confusion or incorrect information on the packs themselves but it will still be a hard sell for the box since all you can go off of is what other boxes from the same case had inside and without documentation it’s a story and the person’s rep. I like to think my packs are the surest way to guarantee a No Symbol holo since I’ve only ever opened No Symbols from them and because I’ve opened so many. Of course I have a very biased view here since I’m the owner and since I have a large No Symbol position but these are the facts.
If someone wanted to buy packs I’d have to consider the fact that they are much harder to find than 1st Edition and because of their unmarked nature we likely won’t see the huge numbers of No Symbols flooding the graded pool like we have with 1st Edition over the last several years. It’s a slower trickle and the supplier that I got mine from has claimed to be out for a couple years or more now. If you want to open and grade Unlimited or 1st Ed Jungle you can do so almost instantly. There’s always packs available, you just have to pay the price. It’s a different animal with No Symbol. For my own sake I wish there was an easily quotable price but that rev listing is the only real data on heavy packs that I’m aware of and for the box, we have nothing.
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@zap2, Yeah I’ve heard distributor packs are the highest probability as well. I’ve opened a few and couldn’t distinguish anything physically different from the packs I had on hand.
Lots of good info here. This makes me want to open a box to verify contents. It would be too risky to sell a box for 5 figures and have the transaction go south.
I have 2 boxes, so it wouldn’t be a total loss.
No symbols are one of the highlights of my collection. It would be a memorable pack opening experience. When I got back into Pokemon, one of my first big pack openings was ~ 90-100 No Symbol packs. A few ink stain errors also came from the packs. All of the non holos are still as crisp as when they came out.
Let’s let the thread run in case more information surfaces.
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