this card was made in 1998 and was awarded to the top 3 winners on the wortortle mega battle tournament in japan. it is estimated that only 24 cards where released in the world. (3 top winners * 8 areas in japan: do you remember lucky stadium card have 8 different area? japan is devided into 8 area at pokemon league) and ever winner must use this card in there deck to join the wortortle mega battle āfinal stageā. this is the reason there are no perfect mint card.
If I remember well, a japanese collector estimated that there were between 60 and 180 copies distributed.
Anyway there are definitively more than 24 copies, I am sure that you can find here 24 members with at least 1 copie (I am one of them).
I would estimate that there are at least 100 copies.
EDIT: Moreover, remember that a lot of these prize cards are still in the hands of japanese collectors, and some of them have plenty of these cards, so they can not be so rareā¦
Well wasnāt it a participation reward in the tournament? Iām pretty sure thereās a thread on the forum somewhere that states there was only around 40-50 participants, I could be wrong in saying that though. As for the number of people who own them, thereās only 13 graded copies with PSA, with only 3 achieving 10s. That doesnāt mean there isnāt a few out there but I doubt the number reaches quite as high as 100. You may be right about the number of people on the forum with copies though, they just wouldnāt all be graded if that was the case.
Iām still kind of baffled as to how some of these Japanese collectors acquired so many copies of each but props to them nevertheless.
Where did you get the number 40 from? Or just a random guess? Regardless I would venture to say less than 1000ā¦and that is being very generous in my estimate.
I took the number 40 because of Festa: āIām pretty sure thereās a thread on the forum somewhere that states there was only around 40-50 participantsā.
The calculation was only there to highlight the fact that there could be easily more copies than some think
50 is a number that makes sense since the TMB tournaments had roughly that many participants. It seems to me that the Kamex is rarer than the Unikarp and 1999 Tropical Wind. It appears at a similar frequency to that of the Hawaii Lucky Stadium from what Iāve seen. I think itās very safe to say that the number is less than 180.
There are 1000 copies of the Unikarp, so yes, the Kamex Computer Error is definitively rarer than the Unikarp.
Personally, I have seen a lot of Kamex Computer Error compared to the Hawaii Lucky Stadium ^^
50 copies means that there were only 10 copies distributed to each tournaments (as a reminder there were 5 Kamex tournaments).
The Kamex Computer Error is a participation prize card, so why there would have been only 10 participants who received the card?!
50 is too low.
EDIT: But I will ask more details to a new japanese collector friend (with a lot of knowledge and flyers) in the week
Iām not sure that anyone has produced any hard evidence that it was given to all participants. Iām sure there is documentation out there but nobody has really confirmed. It could be like the Tropical wind where it was given to top players? Anyway, interested to see what you find about it. Iām hoping to get some documents translated at the University to find out about the tournament and other events.
Iām not home right now so I canāt find the link to the thread but someone said they found a pamphlet saying that was the distribution number or something. Iām by no means an expert or just pulling random numbers, itās just the only information I have seen on it before. As for the number seen, Iāve seen more of trophy cards but that doesnāt mean itās necessarily rarer then them
It would be interesting to hear if they have any information on it. I know someone started a thread recently for distribution numbers, it could be nice to add to it.
On a side note - why was there never a Venusaur Mega Battle? There was a Kamex and Lizardon one after all. Would it have just been down to how popular the evolutions were among fans at the time?
The threads I mentioned before - Both you and @mkpokecc commented on them.
Quoted from @smpratte on the second thread as it seems to be the most helpful comment towards this topic, however this information may have since changed if more information has emerged - āThe Kamex White R - I do not know the exact amount of copies of this card but I always placed it with the 9th lucky stadium. However, I have personally seem more copies of the Kamex than the 9th. I would say I have seen double the amount including both private and public sales. This is not definitive proof there are more of Kamex, but in my experience, it leads me to believe there might of been another possible distribution.ā
Edit: I think the distribution number being between 100-200 seems quite possible, but I feel any more than 200 would be a stretch still.
Hey now I never gave out an estimate! I just said that I can almost guarantee there is less than 1000 based off of the frequency they appear when compared to the unikarp. Iām a bit hesitant saying any hard numbers because short of actually being at the tournament or having any kind of documentation, there is no way to prove how many were actually printed. we can throw out all the numbers we want but they are meaningless without proof, the best we got is an approximation based off of other tournaments. In short, itās very rare, itās limited but we donāt know how many!
Of course, yeah! Good way to put it. I wish there was more documentation for them like with the Snap cards or somewhat like trophy cards but oh well I suppose. Perhaps in the future something will emerge.
Has anyone ever actually asked anyone who officially worked at the company during the time, an artist or something like that?
I did this a long time ago (reached out to media factory) when I had my SSB no.3. I was surprised they even emailed me back! They said that yes they printed the card (duh!) but they donāt reveal how many cards they print. Good luck getting information from them! You would have better luck finding someone who went to one, or digging up more articles and having them translated. In fact, I just remembered I have the booklet given out at the kamex mega battle, if that could be translated perhaps it would help?
Itās pretty cool they replied and at least helpful that we know they donāt disclaim the numbers so we donāt waste much time on it. If you still have the sheet from the KMB perhaps it could be a good idea to have it translated if you still can find it?