In this article, I developed why I believe that the top 1-3% of the hobby would be suitable for catching the attention of a pure investor. I invite you to read it to get some context.
Today, Iām opening this thread so that we can make an attempt to determine what would fall within this top 1-3%, considering these three parameters simultaneously:
Condition, rarity, and demand/liquidity.
Keep in mind that the 1-3% is a very narrow range, so weāll have to put some thought into it. Additionally, remember that all three parameters must be met at the same time.
Here are some of the cards that I considered would fall within this range:
Charizard 1st Base Set English PSA 10
Charizard No Rarity PSA 10
Rayquaza Star English PSA 10
Pikachu Illustrator PSA 10 and PSA 9
Kangaskhan Family Event Trophy PSA 10 and PSA 9.
Letās see if together we can come up with a list of 15-30 cards!
Letās discuss among ourselves and strive for consensus!
As I said in the article, that list will probably fill great part of the 1-3%ā¦ but even though they are the rarest of the hobby, not all of them will probably be absolute top in demandā¦ as many of them are totally unknowns to the average collector.
Maybe I should restart this thread and let it be only for Set cards. Maybe it would be easier.
Ok, hereās a more serious answer. The cards that make for the best investments are those that people want to own as collectibles, not as investments. Because the whole value of a collectible is based on that principle. People want to own it and not sell it anymore, and that creates the demand.
Thatās why I donāt like the approach of picking and buying cards after parameters like condition/demand etc. to āinvestā. I think the more investors and the less collectors are im the hobby, the worse the hobby will do. Collectors will be unhappy because their wanted cards are bought up, and investors will be unhappy because the investorās lack of emotional connection towards the collectible and their lack of an emotional barrier to sell it when the price dips will sink the value the collectible has in the first place.
Thatās why I wonāt suggest any card in particular as investment.
If you count commons, uncommons, energies and total cards printed, 1% would include many cards including moonbreon.
The more I collect, the more I realize that popularity and demand is more important than rarity or supply.
Cards like Mario pikachu or munch pikachu are not on your list there but should be. If a card has astronomical demand, whether it has 100 or 1000 copies doesnāt make a huge difference.
If we are considering the 3 conditions, there will not be.
Take into account, for example, that a Charizard Base Set 1st in english has 10 (or more if you count .5s) variations in PSA condition (not counting on different grading companys).
So probably we could come out with a list of less than 50 cards.
I donāt know if this helps us firstly. I think that we should first get to a list of cards. And then we could sort by taking the % pop that it represents of the total Pokemon pop.
For example, 4086 of these cards are Charizard 1st Base Set. This is 6.46%. But if we only think that PSA 10 deserves to be in the list, it would be 124 that represents 0.19%. That second number will make sense!
Itās a good idea! But I think we should get to pick a list to be able to do this exercise. Donāt you think?
Some of those cards you listed have also had horizontal or negative movement in the past few years. One could argue that they are not good investments in terms of ROI. Once you get to that high of a dollar amount, the buyer pool is much smaller. If you bought the equivalent value in smaller cards like Mario pikachu, you would have done better.
I totally agree. Collectors set the long term value for each card.
Maybe Iāve been misunderstood. What I am asking for is a list of the top 1-3% cards in the hobbyā¦ independently if they can be considered good or bad investments.
In the article I said that this would probably be the best if someone was willing to investā¦ but just because of what you said. They are the cards that are most desired by collectors and the ones that would remain valuable even when the hobby passes through ābad timesā of engagement or attention.
Againā¦ I have probably been misunderstood. Sorry for that.
Iām asking for the top 1-3% cards of the hobby. It doesnāt matter if they have been good or bad investments.
In the article I said that this range would probably be the best if someone was willing to invest, because they are the ones that would remain valuable even when the hobby passes through ābad timesā of engagement or attention.
I think you misundestood the amount, thinking 1-3% of cards is massive amounts even though that probably isnāt relevant to what you are seeking. Itās 63,247 unique cards graded of which that charizard is just 1, not 4086, the total number of graded cards is naturally a lot bigger than unique cards. Probably you just should stick with your amount of cards you wish to have instead of talking about that 1-3% since it obviously isnāt a realistic number from whole card pool and is confusing people
Oh thatās true! I misunderstood when reading that @bule data! Sorry for that. Seeing it like that, 3% would be around 1900 cards.
Probably would be best to ask for a list of the, for example, top 50 cards in the hobby? And differentiating between set cards and promo cards, as this last ones are already in the well known @EnlightenedBulbasaur ās spreadsheet.
Yeah could you explain why you think itās not a possible option?
Itās rarer too pull , itās got A LOT of following with how much collectors love the card and will pay HUGE premium prices for it
We are most likely not going too see more PSA 10ās in the far future being graded as this card comes from a very very low printed set and pulling it alone is almost impossible especially that the ex Deoxys booster boxes are not being opened or found hardly any where.
