So i heard Logan Paul bought the 1st ed base box on heritage for 198,000, pretty much double what last sold was. This makes me wonder… would i sell some of my stuff for double what market value is?
What is going to happen when logan buys up all the base set he wants… will he go japanese? Will he go 1999-2000? I enjoy watching someone with money in the hobby. Hes got money and likes cardboard, at least we got somethin in common… the liking cardboard part 
He didn’t tell me he bought it and I talk to him everyday?
He is keeping secrets from you. People these days!
Interested in the last half of this comment…
Do you know his long term collecting goals
He’s all over the place right now. He’ll be visiting soon and I’ll ask him.
Isnt he the guy who filmed a dead body in japan?
Yep. He was a true pokemon fan back then too as you can see in this video:
He is. I think he’s much less of a scumbag than his brother Jake Paul (which isn’t that difficult), but he still is the definition of everything wrong with children’s entertainment and their idols. 0% real empathy, 100% narcissistic douche. IMO he stands for nothing positive aside from becoming filthy rich through being a terrible role model and marketing genius for elementary schoolers (if that’s a trait you find positive).
You can call that gatekeeping if you want. Not that I could stop him from buying Pokemon cards anyway and he won’t singlehandedly destroy the public image of all collectors. But I definitely won’t actively embrace guys like him entering the hobby.
Wow, he’s like the embodiment of every negative US stereotype.
Little harsh but that’s okay. He’s also incredibly generous with both his money and his time. He supports numerous charities including a couple I needed his support with. As far as his marketing ability, I guess you don’t get 10s of millions of fans without some skills.
Now personally am I a fan of his work? Honestly I don’t follow all the young people’s trends and such. I’m too busy with my causes and certainly Pokémon;)
Aside from filming a dead body and laughing about it for views (which should be a dead givaway that he is scum), he has pulled numerous other stunts that show how miserable of a person he is. From faking his death by standing behind a large window and then seemingly being shot by a shotgun while his underage fans were watching in droves (zero human empathy), to tasing dead rats and giving a still living fish cpr after he took it outside of the water (animal cruelty), to simply behaving like an asshole in public (throwing objects at cars, shoving dead fish up people’s faces), to repeatedly making racist remarks against Asian people, everything hints at him being a narcissistic sociopath who only does things to get more attention and to make more money, no matter how depraved it is. I don’t believe for a second that he started collecting Pokemon out of interest for the hobby (now out of all times).
So I don’t think we are harsh in criticizing him. Certain actions warrant certain responses, and I will call a spade a spade when I see one. I was afraid that the recent spike in popularity and prices would attract bad apples, so that was kind of expected. Still leaves a bad taste. And I certainly don’t see it as a virtue if someone is able to earn money only through creating controversy and bothering other people, because if that’s all they do, they are useless to society and we would be better off without them. Just because someone is making a lot of money, it doesn’t mean that they are a good person or should be looked up to.
Lastly, here’s a video of Japanese youtuber Yuta talking about Logan’s behaviour and showing some scenes from Logan’s video (that way I can avoid giving Logan more views). As you can see, people don’t just take this as a harmless joke, and Yuta is probably the most chill guy out there.
Logan Paul is a successful individual with questionable character.
How and why does any of this matter when it comes down to collecting? How many of you actually do background checks on those you sell to?
I dont care for what Logan Paul does with his money, and yeah he is a low IQ douche who aclomplished nothing more than being idiotic, everyone waste their life the way they want
He bought charizard PSA 10 and I bet he will crack it and eat it live and earn 300k usd for the views and make profit, that’s his style
@trophiesonly, this is just my opinion, but to me the value of a hobby doesn’t just derive from how much money is in it or how popular it is, but also from how the state of the community is. Take Call of Duty for example. Highly popular video game series, highly successful. But one of the most toxic online communities imaginable. With an online chat that drops slurs and violent threats every second, it makes many people turn away from the hobby because they can’t enjoy their hobby anymore. Now, cards are not video games, but I do think that a bad community can have a negative impact on the state of the hobby, be it for our own enjoyment or for our reputation.
Does financial success make you immune to moral judgement?
If collecting is just throwing money at stuff, no, his character doesn’t matter.
To me however it is also being part of a social community and I’d just prefer to not have someone in there who contradicts all my ethical values. Again, there’s nothing I can do about it, I just don’t embrace it.
It does not make you immune to moral judgement. But I’m asking a reasonable question - how often do any of you really do a background check on eBay to verify the winner is not ‘toxic’ or have a criminal history?
In this case Logan has made his identity known. But what if he made an alias and begun acquiring all your cards without your knowledge? With this preference would most of you be weary to who you begin selling to?
Nah, of course I don’t launch an investigation prior to every sale.
But isn’t that a bit of a strawman argument? Obviously I wouldn’t be so negative about him if he’d made an alias, but that doesn’t make his real life behavior any less bad.
This is like asking if you would prefer a criminal to stay anonymous so you can do business with him without remorse.
@trophiesonly, I wouldn’t be weary of who I sell cards to, a deal is a deal and I wouldn’t discriminate. But isn’t this less about who we are selling to, and more about who gets attracted to the hobby in the first place? Logan Paul’s “interest” in the hobby is a logical consequence of other influential people and fresh “Pokemon investment youtubers” hyping Pokemon up to be a way to get rich and make lots of money. So I don’t blame sellers who see an opportunity to make potentially millions by dealing with Logan or other dubious individuals, and I don’t even blame the hype channels because they are not wrong - you can make lots of money in Pokemon if you are good at flipping and have a good instinct. I’m just sad about the direction the hobby is going into, that’s all.