Hi everyone, need you help to work out if this is a potenial shadowless green wings box or not.
Context: the box was bought from a sports card shop and the flap had never been broken. Its a green wings, wotc logo, many country codes. I can see the crimps are short.
Its a bit hard to push down as i think 1 pack has shifted over the other but i got these photos. Any thoughts?
Possible, but unverifiable unless you opened another box out of the same case.
www.elitefourum.com/t/identifying-shadowless-unlimited-base-set-boxes-packs/16993/1
I was hoping somebody may know better with red bar placement.
But yeah no one can know unless other boxes from the case are opened.
In my experience maybe 20% chance of being shadowless.
send it. open that sucker. zandg did it recently and pulled shadowless out of em…dont listen to me. i am simply here for entertainment purposes only.
Sorry to bump (dont ban me mods)
But HA is auctioning a box similar to mine. There must have a stage where shadowless pack art in green wings, multi code boxes occured.
Next step is to see one opened on camera
I want to say I have seen one with international codes confirmed to be Shadowless before, but the evidence is long gone. I know I specifically did not rule it out after opening a green wing without the codes that contained unlimited (not bought from a former distributor), and I know that happened for a reason.
Production possibly ran concurrently and not consecutively due to the codes. These boxes are a likely contender for the source of non-theme deck shadowless cards reported in Europe, and those findings are by all accounts minimal, which could give an indication of how swiftly these came and went.
Freshmagma has to be the most well-informed person on this subject, but I doubt he’ll give answers. He’s been pumping out his stash of both combinations (wotc wrapper with and without international codes) for well over a decade now, and he doesn’t mention Shadowless in his listings. After so much time, some of his clients have probably reported their findings back to him and given him some sense of what his stash contains beyond what little he told me 11 years ago.
I always suspected Freshmagma’s boxes were unlimited since he never states it.
Most of them probably were, I know some of it was. But he had a ton of them, from different batches too, so I would be astounded if everything turned out to be unlimited.
If I had to guess, the reason he continued to stay away from the Shadowless terminology (and pricing) after the particularities became more commonly known (years after he started selling them) is because the potential issues weren’t worth risking his spotless reputation and steady stream of box sales over. That, or he simply ran out of Shadowless candidates.
What is a shadowless box?
I thought if the packs inside were the shadowless artwork (red bar on the bottom), then that was a shadowless box. A ‘potential shadowless’ is what scammers used to sell their unlimited box at a higher price. I do know that shadowless artwork packs do not always have shadowless cards inside.
Best way to tell if it’s shadowless is if you can see the long crimp packs. Your pictures don’t show this. but your box has teh WOTC wrap so it’s more likely unlimited