PSA Cert Grading Harshness Discussion Round 817369

For the person who said “you’re paying for authentication, encapsulation, and another person’s opinion on condition which might be different to yours” is right but also theres a line here. PSA clearly changed their standards in grading over the years. Back in the day if you saw even a small little spec or off centering, it wasnt acceptable in the psa standards and everyone would make a fuss and say its a psa 9 and shouldnt qualify as a 10. Now… every… single… psa 10 has noticeable dinks and whitening you can spot easily and the centering can be on another planet and itll still get a 10. They basically started making their psa 9s as 10s without announcing it like cgc did. Smart move because this makes people happy and they dont care as long as they’re getting their 10s and their moneys worth! If PSA announced that their 9s will bump to 10s people would have lost their shit. As long as psa didnt flat out announce “we dont give a fuck anymore, all 9s are 10s now, do something about it” people are happy not having to know or hear that. As a tenured collector I see it clear as day that there was definitely a huge change there. Dont get em like we use to. Every 10 I come across has a noticeable defect on it. Its laughable. And disturbing at the same time but it puts money in my pocket so I dont complain. I also dont lie to myself and say psa grading standards are better than beckett grading.

Its an “ignorance is bliss” kinda thing. People choose a shit quality 10 over a strong quality 10 because its cheaper and they lie to themselves not admitting that psa quality dipped tremendously over the years. Who cares as long as youre making money right? I think its because they got so many more customers and its tougher to stay consistent with so many cards coming in.

The BGS pristine 10 will always hold more value than a psa 10 no matter how many people are upset and write about it. They can all cheer that beckett is closing but thats not going to change the value of a gem mint 10 beating psa every time. BGS 10 is always a cleaner card. I dont care if beckett fries, Ill cheer with you, maybe itll teach them a lesson to have some customer support next time.

Its one thing to hate on a company for what they deserve and another to lie to ourselves and say that psa is on the same lvl of grading standards as beckett.

I was suppose to take out something offensive from this statement but forgot to before posting it. I apolgize for that. Thanks for removing it.

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I see more people argue the exact opposite of this opinion nowadays.

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Encapsulation shouldn’t take 1 month to complete after grades are done, that needs to be addressed immediately. Not a grading scale or a website

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He’s a modern only guy

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Why dont we put it to the test and see if its an opinion? Im just stating what I see everyday on the market. Every psa 10 I see has a flaw. Every beckett 10 I see doesnt. I didnt mean to get anyone upset just stating what I see. Not other peoples opinions

I have a hard time taking someone’s opinion seriously who uses so many absolutes. All PSA 10s have flaws, no Beckett 10s have flaws, those are wild statements. It’s a fair opinion to state that you believe one grading company is more strict than the other, but your wording is a non-starter for me, therefore tinfoil hat gif

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Beckett does have flaws. I rarely see them. I have a hard time people not admitting that every psa 10 has notieacble flaws. When you van literally go look it up. For the beckett 10s on the market currently I dont see any flaws. Never said there arent any.

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thats weird coz everyone wants new certs and say old psa 10s are equivalent to psa 8s or some nonsense nowadays :rofl:

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I do acknowledge that a psa 10 isn’t intended to be a flawless card, anyways this isn’t relevant to the beckett suit so I’ll be done

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That wasnt my point about old or new certs. I said the psa 10s on the market that i am seeing now have notieacble flaws. Not sure if theyre new or old. You can literaly go look. Back when i started collecting it was rare to see noteable whitening or dinks on the front or back of a psa 10s and if you did it was frowned upon. Psa cases are so flimsy half my cards are moving around and getting new dinks i never seen when i first got them whether its a new cert or old cert. Its a big factor. So big that psa announced they need new cases. Another factor could be that they have gained so many new customers its hard to stay consitent with grading. If beckett had as many customers as psa maybe they would be inconsistent too. Im not trying to hate on a grading company just saying it how i see it.

What does PSA have to do with BGS no longer being a big 3 grading company?

Probably time to take a breath and let some posts slide

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A lot is being said in here that has nothing to do with the lawsuit. People are downgrading a companys grading standards based off other factors that have nothing to do with their grading standards. Its not productive. And simply hating collectively. Hope you know i dont mean no ill “will” and respect everyone on here. No absolutes. Just what i see on the market that everyone with two eyes can look up on ebay, mercari etc.

When people talk in absolutes about beckett its all good no one responds but when i state what I see on the market about psa with proof it gets peoples attention.

My post was a stand alone post, wasn’t responding to anyone in particular

At what time were PSA 10s meant to flawless? Not all PSA 10s are equal. Some have flaws, some don’t. Not sure PSA grading standards ever suggested they should be flawless?

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9 certs are awful

7-8 certs are very nice and often ubdergraded

PSA change their scale to suit demand

They just don’t tell you

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There is zero point wasting your time with trying to argue with the PSA brigade man. Save your sanity.

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You still think there’s variance amongst cert eras? Let alone those ones?

C’mon man, you’ve been around the hobby long enough…

Yes, 100%.

I’m someone who buys a lot of undergraded PSA slabs specifically for cracking, and 9xxx are very loosely graded.

5xxx I wouldn’t touch
6-8 many undergraded
9x more looser grades

There are exceptions but I’m just communicating my experience.

Ask anyone who grades vintage in high volume.

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So all card graded at PSA with cert higher then 4 is under graded?

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