Scam: 4th Print Box Break on WhatNot

Hi everyone, I’m new to the forum but was recommended to join and make a post by a good friend following what I can only describe as a complete scandal of a box break stream on WhatNot last night for a 4th print base set booster box break by seller Global Nostalgia.

In short, by the end of the stream it was realised that the holo hits which everyone is chasing did not possess the all important 4th print 1999-2000 date stamp that gives them their value due to the low POP and rarity in high grades.

Having already collected 14 of the 16 holos myself in PSA 9/10 I was keen to get involved to try and complete my set with pack fresh holo hits. As a result I waited until 17 packs and 5 holos remained and committed to buying out the remaining box for nearly £7,200.

The seller is already highly aware of my existing collection and that I would only enter on the basis that the holos possessed the 1999-2000 date rather than the standard unlimited 1999.

The first holo to be hit by someone was a Raichu - I asked on stream to see the print date to confirm 4th print as it was not made clearly visible and small blurred text on screen - this request was ignored and the holo quickly taken off screen.

Just a side note to add - the stream began with the box visibly already open on stream with no seal and so not proof of not being tampered with.

I was in and out of the stream but 6 holos later including someone pulling the Charizard the seller had not flagged to anyone that the 4th print date was not present - looking back it was clear to see the attempt to cover the area on the front of the cards where the date is stamped with a thumb placement and flip the cards to show the back more than the front and then quickly take them off screen.

By the time I was opening my heavy holo packs and actually hit both of the remaining holos I required to complete my set I re-asked to see the print date on screen - low and behold no print date and unlimited standard only!!! All buyers now questioning their hits and the seller refused to bring anyone’s holo hits back on screen to prove they are all unlimited and not in fact 4th print as advertised. Seller then continues to stream and ignore requests to deal with the issue and then just carry on selling cheap singles.

What astounds me more than anything is the seller is an “expert” in this field yet fails after the first holo hit to prove the cards have the 4th print date (I things knew) yet continues to sell the box out on the premise they are indeed 4th print - consistently then covering the front of the card and getting hyped and excited about all of these rare 4th print holo hits including a Charizard of potentially £20k + value in a PSA 10. To then let me commit to buying 17 packs at £450 each knowing I only collect 4th print date without saying oh hang on these are actually unlimited and so I wouldn’t recommend anyone but after the first holo confirms this is disgusting behaviour for one of the biggest WN streamers in the game - why risk your reputation, why then not immediately deal with the issue?

I now have an inbox full of messages from other buyers and viewers equally in shock at how this is NOT being dealt with.

I have screen shots showing the handling of the holos and attempt to cover that everyone has now picked up on.

I have contacted WhatNot and requested a cancellation - hopefully they do the right thing but I wanted to share in an open forum space more to ensure people realise what’s going on in these streams from apparent “Top” streamers.


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Sorry to hear this, I’ve never heard of any positive experiences here on that platform. Seems they’re no different to tourist crowd street performers. They take full advantage of you not knowing what game they’re playing

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I caught some of this stream yesterday. Whilst it is known that a considerable amount of 4th print boxes do contain unlimited holo cards, it definitely seemed like there was a conscious effort by the seller to hide the fact that the holo cards from this box were unlimited.

There were many comments in the chat throughout the stream insinuating that the holos were 4th print and the seller at no point disagreed or corrected anyone. He also very clearly made an effort to cover up the corner of two holo cards I saw pulled with his finger. It seemed very strange that the holo cards were only briefly shown in comparison to the bulk which he went through in detail.

It’s a shame I wasn’t in the stream when the Charizard was pulled as even with the dates hidden the black stripes behind its wings instead of red would of been a dead giveaway of unlimited.

This was clearly shady shit and I hope that you are able to resolve it in some way or form. The comment that worries me most of all from your post is that the box was already open at the start of the stream. This is a major red flag and it frustrates me that sellers can take advantage of uninformed collectors in this way. It is clear that 99% of viewers of that stream had no idea what 4th print was, nor how a box break should take place.

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I think the majority of collectors that have some insight into booster boxes and the cards inside understand that the majority of 4th print base boxes usually have standard print holo’s, I don’t understand why the seller didn’t just disclose this straight off the bat, Hiding the fact with finger placements etc is just hilarious. However you purchased the last packs, I wouldn’t have bought anything without being 100% sure on what print the holo’s were, especially because you were aware of this before purchasing

Overall, the seller should have been transparent and if he wasn’t he was doing it intentionally. He has been known to be dodgy in the past, why people still use people like this confuse me.

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Now, I’m not trying to put the blame on you at all. The seller was clearly behaving deceptively. But you still bought 17 packs before confirming the holos were 4th print?

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I was waiting for this comment to come up which I understand, however, if you know me and my collection which Kev (aka Global) does he knows full well what I am collecting and that I am 2 holos short of a full PSA 9/10 4th print holo set. On streams before the break I’ve asked him do you 100% know these holos have the date and he’s said yes. I was in and out of the stream during the course of it as that’s life, but the screen was a little blurry and hard to see, especially when the cover ups going on. I would have expected, having 7 holos been pulled already and everyone hyped about the potential value of the rare holo hits that we knew they were there. Not 1 person including the experienced streamer, fountain of all Pokemon knowledge said WAIT the dates not there until I flagged it myself on the ripping of the last pack as it’s the first one I caught a glimpse of properly and thought it didn’t appear to have the date - why, knowing what I’m hunting and why I would look to spend that much would you accept the order having blatantly known the dates were not present - my flag caused chaos as all other holo hitters then clocked the problem and will be requesting the same refund.

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Thanks for the context. Hope you get your money back and good luck with the rest of the set :slight_smile:

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Thanks I’ll get there! :grinning:

Sorry to hear, hopefully you get a refund.

Stories like these always reconfirm my decision to never use WhatNot.
All I ever hear about WhatNot are scams that happened, never any good publicity.

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No person who has been in Pokémon for more than 2 years would wear those black gloves!

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Not trying to be too callous here or put anymore blame on you, but I know you are after these cards now and you (hopefully) wouldn’t buy cards/packs/participate in a break from me. How well did you know this guy before this? Or did he have a decent reputation for selling this level of card? Bummer that this happened and hopefully WhatNot will refund everyone.

I think scam and WhatNot are synonymous nowadays. I’m sorry that this happened to you and I hope that you get the rest of your collection finished.

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Quick update, fully refunded £7.2k

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i would wait until the psa 10 comes up for auction for the ones that you are missing and just buy them. all box breaks are basically a scam esp vintage boxes because you will get a psa 8/9 for any holo right outta the pack.

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Great to hear! Was that at the behest of whatnot, or the streamer?