selling advice, middleman in the UK?

Hi guys, I am about to make my biggest sale ( a few thousand $).

I have a serious buyer, I believe. He wants to go with a middleman in the UK and I think its a safe option for me as well?

I just have no idea how it works exactly, can someone explain it to me? I just send my cards to a middleman and after the buyer checking the card I get my money?

Do you know any trustworthy middleman in the UK? Or where can I find one?

Hope someone is able to help me out,

Kind regards

Daniel

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Isn’t it up to the buyer to arrange a middleman? Not sure why you as a seller would need to arrange a middleman in the UK if (s)he’s the one that wants to buy a product from you.
I sometimes use a middleman to buy stuff from the US from sellers who only ship domestically within the US (I’m from The Netherlands btw). In that case the seller indeed ships to my US middleman, and as soon as it has arrived there, it’s done for the seller and I leave positive feedback. I usually also send them a thank you message when the card has arrived from my middleman to me. (If for some reason that package for lost or damaged, it has nothing to do with the seller, but only between me and my middleman.)

Also, I assume you’re from Europe or the UK yourself, and the buyer is from the US or elsewhere outside of Europe? I’m still a bit confused why you should be the one to arrange a middleman as seller. A middleman is primarily used as a buyer when a seller is only willing to ship within his/her own country/continent, and in some cases to avoid shipping/import fees and/or combine multiple orders at once at your middleman to only pay for shipping overseas once.

Greetz,
Quuador

I’d be happy to assist, being U.K. based. I’m only a small timer though, but I know freshpokepulls on Instagram offers a U.K. middleman service.

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Does that mean that they are not committing to buying the cards until after they have seen them? Just because if they are high value and you spend the time and money to ship them to the UK then they decide they don’t want them is he going to compensate you for the shipping costs and costs for your time?

@fireftw87 ,

yes, I mean we have a deal and even if prices is going up I will stick to it and I think the buyer as well.

I send him pics already and he definitly wants to buy the cards, he just wants to pick up the cards local ( guess because its safer) and while he is doing that he’s going to send me the money.

all of this makes sense to me, I just don’t know how to chose a middleman and send him cards worth around 7k $ without any back up.

Is this the usual way, or how do things like that work?

@olddaddl Tbh, I don’t have too much experience as a seller. I’m primarily a buyer.

I can kinda understand it from the buyer’s standpoint, since it’s a lot of money. But at the same time, make sure you’re not getting scammed or ripped off as a seller. I personally wouldn’t send cards worth multiple K’s of USD without seeing some money first, unless it’s to a very close friend or family member you 100% trust… Also, let’s say the buyer thinks the cards aren’t as good as (s)he expected, they’ll have to go back to you again. What guarantee do you have that the buyer is paying for return shipping. Also, does the seller pay for shipping from your country to the UK before you send them to you middleman?

Anyway, as a buyer (s)he has more rights than you as a seller (assuming (s)he pays with PayPal G&S), so personally I wouldn’t agree with what you describe. The way things are usually done:

  1. Buyer pays for the item
  2. Seller sends it to them
  3. When it arrives at the buyer, the deal is done. But if the buyer isn’t happy with it for some reason (i.e. damages that weren’t visible on the pictures), they can claim an ‘item is not as described’ and send it back. And only when the card is back safely in your own hands, and there aren’t any additional damages done in comparison to when you’ve send it out, you’ll refund the costs of the card itself + shipping from you to him/her of step 2 (return shipping from them to you is on them)

If (s)he prefers to see the cards in person before making the purchase, (s)he should travel to Austria and visit you in person to do so. Not the other way around. Just my 2c, though.

Greetz,
Quuador

I’m in the London area if this is of any use to you.

And I’m in Manchester if that too is of any use ~

I hate to be a party pooper but I am getting a bad vibe from all this.

I truly do not see the need for a middleman. Have the guy pay you through Paypal Goods and Service, and he will be protected in the event that you decide to scam him.

Paypal protection is very strong and it should be good enough for him.

You are having the buyer set up this middleman, what if the buyer is in cahoots with the middle man and they are going to screw you and split the money?

The market is in such a state where it is impossible to buy anything because no one is selling, and the prices go up every day. There isn’t gonna be another buyer, there are probably hundreds of other buyers that would love what you are selling. So why take such a big risk?

Either this guy is paying you market price for the cards and there is no special benefit to selling them to him, or he is paying you above market in which case it is for sure a scam. Either way, it doesn’t make too much sense to even do business with him.

The more you start thinking about this, the less and less it makes any sense for you.

My advice? Jack the price up 10%, then sell it someone based in the USA who doesn’t require a middleman.

I will be taking 10% of the 10% price increase for my sage words, thank you. (sarcasm)

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Out of curiosity, how did you find your middleman/determine how to trust them?

I guess we just became friends over the internet. We already knew each other and chatted about our collections here on the forum for more than a year. And when I needing someone from the US, I was already chatting with him, so asked if he could help me out. Later he also asked me to buy cards from the European market to send to him in the US. That way we helped, and are helping, each other.

Anyway, as mentioned by @karmaawhoree, the buyer is always protected if something goes wrong if he pays with PayPal G&S. I personally wouldn’t send a 7k+ USD item to anyone before getting any payment. Doesn’t sound like a very smart thing to do… :confused:

Greetz,
Quuador

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thanks for help everyone, really appreciate it !

I am still not sure what to do, but guess I will talk with the buyer and maybe we can find a good way for both of us

This is a seller’s market. Find an easier buyer to deal with.