Shadowless Box

General
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Thoughts on whether shadowless and price. Packs do have shadowless artwork.

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I thought I’d the wrapping is clear with out wotc logo it’s definitly shadowless ? :blush:

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I don’t think I’ve ever seen the shrink wrap crimp/heat seal on the Venusaur side. That seems suspect to me?

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It should be yes if it contains long packs.

As far as pricing go, I’m not aware of any recent sale so it’s tricky to come up with a number. I’d say $15,000 even if I think that’s a little low. It has to be worth at least PSA 10 Shadowless Charizard money though.

@cinnaminhbun I’m seeing a few just browsing google images. Unlimited though, I don’t know if the sealing process was different for 1st Ed/Shadowless?

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Good eye. That’s why I showed it to see if anyone would catch it.

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Depending on the process, it’s conceivable that if a few booster packs out of hundreds end up upside down, a few booster boxes out of hundreds might also be sealed the other way around.

I wouldn’t buy it without a guarantee. It seems like a crucial detail that a scammer would forget when resealing.

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What is the general consensus about this box? Legit or suspect?

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I’m leaning toward legit. I did have a real 1st Base Box wrapped that way. I’d still want a guarantee though.

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How did you confirm the packs have shadowless pack art? Do you know if the packs have long crimp seals?

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$16k CAD? That’s a damn good price. Care you link to that listing? Not that I even have the budget for it, but I’m curious why they would price it so low. Btw, no… $16k CAD =/= $16k USD. I’m Canadian and everything here is priced according to USD prices and usually quite a bit higher too.

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Very odd. They’re actually a member here. Is it possible the packs inside are the short crimped/unlimited version? I know clear wrap and one country code is usually Shadowless, but I don’t see why they’d be asking about $9300 US. That’s less than $260 per pack. It doesn’t make much sense.

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Very strange. I asked them if they were on e4 and they said no. Also, they would not provide pics of top pressed down to see pack art or crimps…

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Also, price is dropping fast which is odd…

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Very dodgy, remember, the wizard logos can be removed

The seller definitely has been on E4 so thats a lie, and the dropping price is a huge red flag

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That would make the most sense.

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The fact that he said he wasn’t on e4 when he clearly is is a bit suss. Also, refusing a photo of the top makes it pretty clear what’s inside. It’s not hard to see what other shadowless boxes are listed for on eBay so to have a price that is inbetween the shadowless and unlimited pricing is strange. However, as said before, if you had a guarantee you wouldn’t have anything to worry about. Doubt you’re going to get it though!

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I saw a mention today that a shadowless box is worth $25,000 now, is that a real estimate? Seems ridiculous

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I’d have to say that’s surprising but I f someone wants to pay 25k I will guarantee boxes and travel within the US for a 0% Fee.

My last 3 deals that required traveling went very well so I’m up for it.

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Yeah $25,000 is very much on the high side not that I would be surprised if one ever fetched that much in the future, but it’s a niche set and there’s literally 0 public sales to go by. Some of the people that have them listed for $30k would probably take $20k or even slightly less in private. I’d say fair value would be anywhere between $15-20k.

I’m sure you guys remember the wild predictions when the 1st Edition Base Box appeared at auction. It was ranging anywhere from like $20k to $100k+. No one had a clue.

While this is a different scenario, it’s fairly similar. It’s going to be worth whatever the next couple of boxes manage to bring.

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I thought that had to be an astronomical number. A higher-end seller who I won’t name (might even be on here) is planning to open a shadowless box and is selling the packs at $600 each and I just read his post saying that the box is worth $25k so I thought I’d ask. Even that math at that price point didn’t compute (36x600=21,600). I understand his/her premium for guaranteed unweighed packs is warranted but just didn’t think we were quite at $25k yet :blush: