hmmmm 
i guess if u had 6 figs liquid u could make another 6 figs easy on these 
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I think the charizard had a 300k offer prior to the auction. Zard in the hand.
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it definitely did prolly multiple also the 1st cgc 10 pristine one sold for like 500k or something privately
Wow that CGC Charizard… apparently the dude was talking about how it was the perfect copy, but didn’t go through with PSA/BGS regardless that price, def gonna shake things up in the Pokemon world. Wonder what this means
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We will probably collectively discuss it for 3 days then forget about it within a week
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Someone will make the thread tomorrow.
“Is the charzard market crashing 
?”
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Akabane illustrator kind of a cool concept but it feels like the signature was rushed 
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With no knowledge of previous sales the disco test prints seem like a steal or are those not particularly rare?
He did (I wont say who from).
IMO (just speculation) he may have gotten a guarantee from Fnatics that he would get a 300k pay-out even if it didn’t sell for that.
A lot of auction houses do this if they want a “big” card for marketing purposes.
But only he can confirm that.
Judging by how non-chalant he has been posting about it I agree completely he got a guarantee from Sotheby’s before auctioning it (and above the final sale price) and that the auction house is taking the hit but I highly doubt at 300
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Considering the grades, definitely a steal imo
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I reckon if there was one it was at least close to the 300k mark as that was what he supposedly had from at least one private High Net Worth individuals…
But yeah, speculation.
I’m slightly disappointed tbh as I thought it would be good for the hobby exposure.
But from what I understand there was only one serious bidder really.
Sotheby’s x Fanatics really dropped the ball imo (or at the very least it wasnt the right platform for pokemanz).
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I think the whole hobby agrees it wasn’t the right platform haha Heritage or fanatics premier would have been ideal because big pokemon collectors are already vetted there and their marketing is so streamlined. I feel like 99% of the people who were watching this zard signed up for a Sotheby’s account in the last week and will never check it ever again lol
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My thing is is that if someone did offer $300k for that card, they wouldn’t be paying attention to it during auction? They wouldn’t have beat that bid of $150k? Something doesn’t add up.
How many people do you think are actively in the market for this right now? Seems like 1
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This has little to do with the market. If I went to a country club and started hawking charizards, they probably would sell for less than at a collectacon. Just because Sothebys has wealthy buyers doesn’t mean they are going to open their wallets for Pokemon like they do for Picasso.
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I was also super surprised with that ending price, just came onto the forum to see if anyone on here was talking about it lol.
Gotta say I agree with @smpratte ,
the fact that Fanatics just had their name attached and wrote a blog article I feel like didn’t promote this auction as much as they expected to the right people. I don’t have much knowledge on sports cards but it looks like they all sold for pretty good prices, (Correct me if im wrong)
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i dont even know how the live bidding took place maybe it was just in person i thought it would be live streamed ala heritage
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I didn’t even think about that, yeah especially if that happened in person I can see why this lot specifically didn’t even reach the bottom of their estimate.
I feel like this entire auction kinda happened fast not sure if that’s just me.