So what do you guys think of the 1st ed entei,suicune,raikou in psa 10 from neo revelation?
They all are low pop (17-25) and have riddicolus price tags on them compared to some other cards from the same expansion.
How would you value them, and do you think they are a good long term investment?
The low pop is likely a large factor in their current price, holding them long term leaves the door open for more copies to be graded, so no personally I wouldn’t invest in them
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It’s a pity their art work isnt quite memorable either. The non holo variants are much more appealing imo.
They are a good long term investment, but the thing is, there is much better options out there for even better long term investments.
Also acebren brings up an excellent point.
what you all are forgetting to factor in here is that these cards are extremely hard to grade. Thusfar only 1 out of 10 copies average has gotten a PSA 10. Take into account that probably the best copies have been graded already and that fewer and fewer of these exist raw.
On the other hand, Neo Revelation is not a good set if you look at it collecting wise, there’s some cards in there with extremely low pop like Ampharos which means there’s not alot of people who can go for full sets.
Investment wise, there’s better options, but over time its likely that these will increase in value aswell due to their rareness and dificulty to grade.
Since September 2017, 62 of these cards have gone through PSA and got either a 9 or 10 (ignoring things that got 8 or less).
59 graded PSA 9 and 13 graded PSA 10. That’s an 18% success rate between 9 and 10. The population of 10s has gone up from 47 to 60. That’s a 22% increase in about 8 months.
The 10 population can only go up. My advice is to avoid buying things with the assumption that the population will be static, especially cards from main sets.
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The pricepoint of these boxes and the cards inside is such that a lot of Neo boxes are being opened for grading currently. There’s a lot of people out there with large numbers of Neo that is pack fresh.
Thank you all. You have deterred me from going after theese.
Yes as @ditto mentioned I think there are probably way more cards that are better long term investments than these 3. Low pop count could be because they are not exactly the ‘top-tier cards’ in revelation that people will grade (Shinings and Ho-oh) but that’s bound to change as WOTC sets age.
I actually love the artwork on them 
yeah… but the pop of EVERY card can only go up, so that’s not a valid arguement.
Also, from experience, Neo revelation is SO hard to grade, even most pack fresh cards aren’t 10 worthy. Also, the dogs are very desirable.
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Same here. It reminds me of when you encounter them in the Burned Tower in Pokemon Crystal, that’s how I picture first seeing them if the games had a cut scene back in the day. Classic Gen 2 Johto artwork straight out of childhood.
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Something about suicune and entei just dont do it for me. Must be the frontal face image. I do like the raikou art. All im saying is the non holo variants look much better and are some of the best looking art works from the neo era imo.
The population of every card can only go up so therefore you should not consider population change when looking at future value of a card? I guess I should have stockpiled up on Mega full art Charizards when they were sitting at pop 50?
All I’m saying is that if you want to invest in a card like this, as acebren said, you’re paying a low population premium. To see a return, you’re betting that premium will persist into the future, so the population needs to stay static or crawl very slowly upward. When you’re betting this on a massively produced set card, that has seen nearly a quarter of it’s 10 population graded in the last 8 months of it’s ~15 year grading history… do I need to say more?
That’s not to say it won’t go up in value. If the interest in the card or the average income of the people who want it grows faster than the PSA population, it’ll increase. But it’s not something I would personally bet on.
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Just wanted to throw out perspective on the other side of the coin here. Yes, it’s true the POP10 can only increase, but it’s both 1st edition and a WOTC product, the odds of that happening now are very slim. Just 3 years ago I randomly went into a comic shop, bought a Neo Rev. Entei and graded it a 10. But it was Unlimited, so I only met one of the two criteria.
Also, the POP is not extremely low, like 2 or 3, there are a decent amount in double digits already, so going from 17 to 19, isn’t as bad as going from 2 to 4. I would agree if it was single digits it would definitely make more of an impact having more graded 10’s (think No Symbol Jungle Mime).
Ultimately, I think it will be more impressive over time when you see people attempt to grade these 10’s and fail. In theory, it should then raise the price of 10’s out there currently. I think if the prices on these ever drop in the future it would because of other factors, not more cards being graded 10 (unless somehow it happened quickly in a large quantity - like 20 in 5 months or something). Just my thoughts
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