Digital art is a tool that opens a large array of possibilities not open before. It only becomes homogeneous and bland when being used by a limited or unskilled user. AI is not digital art.
Just curious what is it then?
An algorithm generated compilation of others art. Minus the intent and personal preferences. My eFour art contest submissions are done with digital art. I use Procreate. I choose brushes ( actually created by me) that compliment my style and expression to achieve the composition I have in my head. It is different than AI that does not create. It compliles. It is a collage
Fake art, “Fart” if you will
@niece
From the POV of a perfuming [performing] artist:
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Creativity != artistic.
Lately I’ve started arguing that AI art is merely a product within a medium, but not “art”. Art requires a cultural context and intentional component. AI cannot yet accomplish this. (Some artists say it needs [a] soul, but I think this is unhelpful, as soul is very anomalous.) (For performing arts, AI would need another component, ability to respond and find creative consensus in real time. but I think AI could get there in the next 10 years.)
Therefore, for examples, AI music is merely just an audible product with notes or rhythm that sounds like music, but is not actually music/art. AI illustrations are visual graphics that look like artistic illustrations or renderings, but they are merely visual products that serve a purpose, not art.
Imagine the Amazon logo. Is it art? Or is it a visual product (yes), lacking a cultural component (hmm)? Scott’s avatar however is visual art as it clearly references a cultural context, has intentionality, and is of course, visual.
edit: “perfuming” sp. error. But I thought it was funny.
AI “art” is the expected consequence of a society that prioritizes profit above all else. And just like every other system it has developed before, relies on exploitation and theft to work.
Yeah. That’s a point to be made here. But there are ways in which AI can be productive - sight for the blind, pattern discovery in data sets, rapid pattern prediction - but as you say there things don’t have mass applications, and can’t derive profit from a large majority of the populace.
Ironically, some of the biggest hitters in capitalism now, leave certain disserviced groups better off. For example, the blind can’t utilize social media as easily, but are thus largely free from the emotional depression that it causes.
AI is so damaging for digital art.
As an example, I have refrained from getting involved in looking at and voting on the arts for that new artist contest thingie, especially when some were outed as AI. I can’t trust that there isn’t more AI lurking in there and have already been burnt multiple times by so many things I have seen online that I thought were cool only to find out it was created by AI all along.
It doesn’t matter that something may look cool or appealing…the spirit of human creativity (one of our greatest features as a species) is completely missing. Calling it “art” is a contradiction imo. It’s like saying that a lifelike android is as good as a human being - it isn’t because the key ingredients that make us human can never be replicated, no matter how realistic the interpretation is.
AI “art” is an affront to art and the worst thing is that we are still in the early stages. Once it gets even better and eradicates all the red flag giveaways, we’ll have no chance to tell the difference and be left with an environment void of trust. I ALREADY see digital artists I have followed for years pre-AI being accused of being AI “artists” by newer viewers of their art.
Ultimately, I think only handmade and clearly hand drawn art (as in a photo of you holding it or a video of you creating it) will survive. Or if you were lucky enough to build up a huge, commercially successful digital art profile before all this crap happened.
In your imagining of the future then, does art exist ONLY in the authenticated real-life medium? (digital art is thus never trustworthy, ever again?)
AI is a tool, a human creation that allows expression of creativity.
Id argue just like in the 1990s with digital art it allows greater artistic freedom.
Digital art made it easier for artist to create
AI made it easier
Here is my Van Gogh Porygon & Porygon2 in which I expessed my creativity
This could be the start of a great case study and intelligent discussion. BUT, IDK if this is the right place…
A master dancer, Martha Graham, once said that each and every person, artist or not, has a unique and valid artistic voice to share with the world.
“No artist is ahead of his time. He is his time. It’s just that the others are behind the time.” - Martha Graham
You don’t need any skill to be a prompter.
You still need to be a skilful artist to use digital art tools well.
And once again it comes down to theft. AI would be capable of nothing if it had no dataset to train on. But keep giving a pass to techbros, it’s always break the law first and ask for forgiveness later.
I’m sure all the murdered Burmese people appreciate the sentiment from Zuckerberg. And that’s only one of many examples of genocide, violence etc. when it’s all about profit and zero accountability.
You told a program to “make this” which literally took an artists work and another artists work and and combined them in the most lazy way imaginable (by our standards of literal copy and paste), and that’s creativity? Your Porygon? Interesting.
AI makes things easier. Hm. What does ease have anything to do with art? The only freedom this will allot will be the degredation and relegation of real artists and the benefit on non artists. Plain and simple.
Here I am expressing my creativity by typing a few words into my google search bar and picking the coolest looking art.
Functionally the same exact effort as making ai art with just as much stolen art.
You’ve got a real talent there. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise
There is skill in prompting. Its the same as utilzing a search engine, there is optimal inputs for optimal results.
Theft in the art world didnt start with AI and won’t end with AI.