This was fun, seller might have issues...

Long story short, sniped a nice holo expedition charizard for $70 a week or so ago, card listed as shipped no big deal. Mind you, this seller has 840+ Feedback.

Few hours later, I see a message and cancellation notice from this seller…

"i am writing to tell you that I have to refund you. I had my young nephew over and while my I was in the other room he played with a few of my cards and unfortunately ruined your card and about 10 others that I had planned on listing.

I wish I had another one I could give you but I don’t. I will refund you the full amount plus a little something for your trouble. Thank you,

Chris"

I’m not new, i’ve heard this before, so I assumed that someone had offered more to cancel my order… So I asked them to show me a picture of the damaged cards because I am pretty sure they sold it to someone who offered more in a message… sure enough…

“Okay you caught me and it is not ethical. You are completely right. I have never done this to anyone in all my years selling. I was offered more money but I think that my ethical values are more important. You were right to send me the message and I deserve it. I did do the refund but if you still want it, I will send it to you. The damaged is done and I can undo the mess I made. Let me know”

Oh look! So I respond with of course I still want it, they relist it at $100(because they apparently don’t know what they’re doing in terms of relisting) So I buy it so I don’t lose it.

"Okay, it’s all set up. Please offer me $65.00 not $69.99. Thank you for keeping me honest and for being so nice to me.
"

Starting to sound super odd with the overcompensation of niceness…Anyways I buy it at $100 and they refund me $40 for my trouble, I gave $10 back to make it $70, ask for a feedback revision request and everything seems to be a-ok.

Sends me a message saying it was shipped with tracking, all seems fine. In the meantime they are listing Gold Stars in NM/mint for great prices, i pick up a treecko and charizard.

Few days late my Expedition charizard shows up…or does it. Nope, they sent me a 39/165 charizard non holo from expedition, oh boy here we go…

I sent the seller a message,
"
soooo you sent the wrong card on purpose or what?

Was this to cover yourself and still send the other one to the other person or what, because this is a joke…
"

They say…
"No, I not do it on purpose. I was very careless again, Please hold on to this card and I will refund your money. I am going to contact the other person because I think they will be upset too. Please give me a day or two to get this matter settled, Thanks, Chris
"

Odd, no 39/165 was sold by them AT ALL and the listing for the 6/165 was correct, clearly they still sold the other card to someone else…

"I found out what I did. I put the wrong picture on this stupid listing. I see where you bought the original one, which is all I had, so I am going to refund you $80.00 and ask you to mail the incorrect card back, if you don’t mind. I am giving you $10.00 for the postage and your anger, which I completely understand. Heck, if was me I would feel like I am being pick on. I want to thank you so much, you are a great person and a wonderful buyer. Take care, Chris
"

Again, would make sense if they didn’t have the card, picture, number, set in both the title and description and ONLY SOLD one expedition charizard, which was mine 6/165, so again, a lie. But wait, they listed one 2 days later, same pictures, same price and it sold as well.

Now they refund me $80?!

I explain its impossible to believe them after everything, they respond with…
"I can’t change your mind, I found the person I sent it to and she is going to send it back. She hasn’t received it but assured me she will indeed send it back. I hate the way ebay listing has change, it is so much more difficult now then 9 years ago, I know you think I am playing you but I am not. I have been looking for a new card but they are $100.00. Whew, selling and not making mistakes is awful. All I can say is sorry
"

Tell them when they get it back, to send it my way (okay, I know this isn’t happening, but who knows).

Today rolls around and my gold stars come in, surprisingly they are the correct cards, but the charizard had 4 dents in it. Ask about the expedition charizard and…

"Look, I remember after I email you that I put that card in an envelope and sent it to you. I was so upset and ashamed, I got it out immediately. I am sorry but I don’t have another card to give you. I have sent you an $80.00 refund so you made money on the deal. Please don’t contact me again. I did not do it intentionally, but I can’t do anything else. Just so you know, I did not sell the card to get more money.
"

Impossible to believe this person after what happened, but at least I managed to purchase a probable 9 GS Treecko out of all of this, I still really wanted both charizards :slightly_frowning_face:

@cooltrainerryan

This guy sounds familiar!

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Had it happen to me also. EBay could care less as long as they refund you they will not do anything against the seller.

Same on TCGplayer.

Short term interest free loans for everyone!

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I wouldn’t have entertained his sideshow circus act for even one second after he admitted to flat out lying about his nephew. That’s the moment where I would have demanded a refund and reported him and then ended communication.

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www.ebay.com/usr/nermalee?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

This seller by any chance?

Really wanted to buy his goldstars but then I spotted he used the same back picture for every card and I was like euhhh… Nevermind ill skip

Maybe :wink:

Wait… so you made some money by buying a card? lol, at least I don’t think the seller will be doing this again.

Yes, but I wanted the card for my expedition set, not the extra $. I understand how it looks like I am complaining about it (because, well I am). But its more so the lengths this person went through to lie, cover it up, change their story multiple times to try and make some more money on a card due to others sending offers after it was sold. I still got very lucky with Treecko star, but the seller still made some dumb moves.

It is VERY normal now on ebay to buy something listed below market value and have tons of members who missed out, message and offer more, or tell them it was sold too low and they should cancel the sale. I hate it, you can’t win them all and you miss out on amazing deals sometimes, no need to be that guy to send offers. Yesterday I missed out on a LC pack that sold for $39.99, messaged the seller if he was selling any others. He said no, and must have been new to ebay because he thanked me for my purchase (I did not buy it, just asked if he was selling more). Not 5 mins later, he sent me a message (Still assuming I was the buyer) saying he didn’t do his research before listing it and was getting much higher offers and wanted me to give him extra money to make up for the value, or he would sell it to someone else, and told me to please hurry as he would sell it to someone else if he didn’t. I responded that I was not the buyer and he shouldn’t be a dick to the buyer who won his listing. He said he was “over the moon” when it sold for $40, seeing as he didn’t think it was worth that and let greed get to him.

If anyone sends messages after items are sold and offer more, stop being salty. :blush:

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This happens all of the time to me. You think you’re getting a good deal but then you’ve got 100 different hurdles to get through… other users messaging with higher offers, the seller cancelling just because, the seller not shipping, the seller relisting and wanting more money, item not arriving as described/poor packaging. So many things can (and usually do) go wrong when you get a “deal” through eBay.

Right around the 20th anniversary/Pokemon Go hype it was easy to get deals no problem, but now that everyone is onto how huge Pokemon is today, good luck. I’ve dropped out of the collecting/resale game big time despite having a great time with it for a year or two.