Do you guys think this will eventually become a niche that becomes highly collectible? Is it already to a large extent or has it been keeping in line with the regular 1999 base set in terms of value?
thanks guys!
While 2000 Base/4th Print/1999-2000 Base has some loyal devotees (looking at you @bartallen2 ), I see no reason why there would be any change in its desirability over time.
If you like the uniqueness of the set (the color difference between 2000 Base and regular base is quite striking!), then itâll be fun to hunt them down as they are quite a bit harder to find in the wild. But I wouldnât expect them to do any better, value-wise, than any comparable set long term.
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Most people donât even know about them. E4 would be fairly unique in the world of the TCG in its awareness of 4th print. It is demand and interest that drives this up. There would likely never be enough. They will run close to parallel with regular base.
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2-3 years ago I would have told you no rarity base was stupid. But now I am actually buying and enjoying no rarity, so who knows. I do like the slight color differences, they pop a bit more than unlimited.
I feel like it will always be above unlimited just for being a rarer variant but will still always be below all the other variants, e.g. shoadowless, 1st, no rarity.
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As @garyis2000 said many moons ago: this set was known pre-2009, and no one was interested in it. But @hypernova is super right, and Iâll quote @smpratte : âI opened a 1999-2000 box and all of the cards were 1999-2000 except the holo cards.â Although I commend CGC for recognising the set, they should have fashioned a new name instead of âPokemon (2000) Base Set Unlimited (1999-2000)â - similar as to how Gary fashioned the âNo Shadowâ moniker before PSA agreed with his âShadowlessâ term - which is utterly terrible, and one of the reasons most of the sellers on eBay still have to use the â4th printâ term as a distinction ~
In July 2020, a non-private bidder bought a complete Base 2000 set for $1,256.39: which - at that time - put it over two activate ended-auctions for EX/NM complete Unlimited and Shadowless ~ PSA acknowledging the set will be a game-changer of sorts (mainly because theyâre English cards).
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Iâve been collecting 1999-2000 Base Set for a few years now although i only tend to bid on the listings that are described as regular 1999 base set just for the thrill of the hunt.
What i have noticed this past few months since the boom is a lot fewer listings popping up of 1999-2000 base being mis-labeled as regular unlimited suggesting that it is in fact becoming more well known & collectable as the hobby grows.
1999-2000 base set holoâs definitely go for more money than regular unlimited when listed correctly, i would place it in-between Shadowless & Unlimited in terms of prices right now.
I personally feel the 1999-2000 base holoâs are a great set to collect and from what i have seen are much more rarer than regular unlimited especially in the UK despite it being labelled as a âUK printâ a lot of the time. Itâs a set that should definitely not be ignored, If you like Base Set iâd see no reason to skip 1999-2000 Base. Itâs also fun to learn about all the differences between the cards themselves, Recently i noticed that the Gyarados is missing the black in the holo similar to Shadowless.
Side note on distribution - Whenever i came across a good amount of raw 2000 holos on ebay the seller was based in Poland, yet only find 1 or 2 in peoples old collections in the UK not to mention my own childhood collection which had 0. I believe that most of the 1999-2000 Base Set Holos were distributed in packs in Poland which had the Polish Hasbro sticker on the back. I wonât be opening my heavy pack any time soon though to find out 
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Imo no, there wonât be a huge difference. Afaik only completionists pay more for 4th print than a regular unlimited one.
Yes only Unlimited and Base 2 have that black background, then unlimited in foreign, 4th print, and legendary collection all have the âshadowlessâ kinda back
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That pack is heavy because thereâs a big extra sticker on the backâŚ
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Harsh⌠Well I guess it depends then how many completionists there are.
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If you do go to open, know those very well may not be heavy. My 1999-2000 Base packs that are heavy are almost 22grams. Light are 21.3-21.45
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I did pull a holo out of the pack wich weighed 23 grams (with sticker)
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Understood, i know the heavy/light weights are different with these compared to regular unlimited.
Thanks for the info! My understanding was at this current weight it could go either way, i had seen fairly lighter packs at around 21g so thought there was at least a chance with this one, I wonât be opening it regardless as i bought it for my sealed collection 
Personally, Iâve found more Base 2000 cards in the UK than Poland, but they were also distributed in Australia and parts of the US as well. But as I stated earlier, a complete Base 2000 set (used) sold for more than a EX/NM Unlimited and Shadowless auction during the period of July 2020 - mainly because itâs VERY rare to find a complete set (Iâve only ever seen one auctioned on eBay).
Yeah, I wouldnât recommend opening the pack, as they might not even include 1999-2000 holos 
Gotta catch em allâŚ
Did Gary really create shadowless as a term? Thats super cool
Yeah, @garyis2000 originally named it âNo Shadowâ, to which PSA eventually extended it to the term âShadowlessâ based on Garyâs extensive contributions.
A point of contention, for me personally, is that because âBase 2000â is more than just a variation in copyright insignia as it has numerable discernible traits. This was the last of the four Base Sets variants - so why not create a name to distinguish it? Such as: Base 2000, Eighth, Ultimate, Omega, Terminus, etc ~ Itâs still being classified as Unlimited on CGCâs census.
Uh, I donât think theyâre gonna name it base set ultimate. Shadowlessâs major feature is that thereâs no shadow. Base set 200s major feature is 1999-2000
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Yeah, youâre ultimately right - hence why many call it Base 2000.
It might be heavy in my opinion.
Have bought 30 of the packs from Poland.
9/30 between 21.30 - 21.60
21/30 between 20.75 - 21.05
So I would consider my 9 packs heavy.
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