Hello as the Title states, I’m just trying to understand the vintage market more as I’d like to build up my collection for nostalgia reasons 
Looking at this recently sold binder on Ebay, I just can’t imagine this would be worth $5,000 especially in this condition.
Can anyone give me their thoughts?www.ebay.com/itm/Pokemon-1999-Trading-Card-Lot-Binder-Full-First-Edition-Holos-Base-Set-Nm-Mt-/363138055798?hash=item548cb6fe76%3Ag%3A768AAOSwjfBfg7WM&nma=true&si=qi8zgJHsFZflhcMO1KSgtvtKSAY%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Thank you so much in advance!
Hey! It didn’t sell for 5000. The seller took an offer. I’m guessing in the 100-200 dollar range. When buying lots definitely do your research on each card in the lot to see if its a good deal or not.
The accepted offer was apparently 4000$
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This listing sold as “Best offer accepted”, I would expect the final sale price to be a good deal less than $5,000. Even in the current market unlimited cards in this condition aren’t worth that much.
Where did you see the $4,000 offer?
Even then… that seems high idk, the cards look in pretty poor condition.
Through a plugin called “slabwatch”.
And I agree, the price makes no sense.
If $4,000 is selling price, my theory is there’s a lot of people jumping over without knowledge. I have a feeling many Evolution charizards are being bought as original Charizards and someone probably saw the 3 1st edition Machamps and jumped all over it.
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Seems like a possible explanation!
It can be a very dangerous market for uneducated buyers who want to quickly jump on the band wagon. Buying fake cards, buying the wrong cards, not knowing how much condition matters, etc.
Another possible scenario is someone making fun of the seller for the high asking price, and maybe the lot did not end up getting paid for, we don’t know.
In any case, you are correct in those cards absolutely not being worth that much in the current market. Nowhere near that price either.
I’m quiet collector returning after a few years out and I’m shocked to see the prices as they are. However, I’m more shocked that some close friends have recently started to collecting after years of ripping into me for my hobby choice. Yet they are buying in my option shockingly poor cards for the prices they are paying.
Went round my friends yesterday to see what he has bought and he’s greatly deluded on some things. Like his recent purchase of a creased Ninetales base. He honestly believes its worth sending to PSA because despite the crease and chipped edges its at least a PSA 9 and can flip it for hundreds after watching Logan Pauls videos on YouTube. Then going though his job lot bundle he bought and pointing out that all those Skyridge cards are fakes. Then listing to him go on about that 1st edition Charizard he believes he had when he was a kid and that would of sold for at least 100k (we all have that friend right).
Then the other one is buying anything with 1st edition stamp because despite the condition its worth mega bucks and wants to send them to either to PSA or Becketts…
I’m all for them collecting and I want them to because it will be nice to speak to close friends about this hobby but I don’t want them to sinks thousands into this and have nothing of real value to show or be proud off.
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I just hope that new people to the hobby find places like e4 where they can get solid advice and not just get the hype from the youtube investors who talk about every single card as a guaranteed PSA 10 and therefore worth thousands. While its great that lots of exposure is bringing new people into the hobby, I am concerned about people being mislead. I guess only time will tell.
I think you’re right in saying lots of newcomers are buying in the hype (and without doing their research) – which definitely will lead to some strange auctions being scooped up.
I’m just getting back into collecting myself as well after 15+ years. I almost have a complete master set of evo and working on champions path.
I’m trying to build out complete sets of new, but don’t want to get absolutely ripped off.
Haha so that’s why I had to ask about this ebay listing. I just found it really strange because a quick pokemonprice search on the cards in the binders show the chances of even breaking even after psa grading are nigh impossible.
Imagine buying 1st Edition Machamps. Be careful and do some more research. Just because something has 1st edition on it does not mean it is a gold mine. This was taken as an offer. Use some tool like ebayfillpertools to see how much something was actually sold for.
What’s the deal with the 1st edition machamps? I remember seeing it a few months ago and it wasn’t shadowless. But I remembered all 1st edition should be shadowless and I was extremely confused. Are those 1st edition Machamps fakes or is there a different story?
No, those unlimited Machamps that aren’t shadowless are actually from a 2-Player CD starter set. Super common cards.
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Someone tried to sell me a PSA 9 1st Machamp for 125$ a month or two ago, I am really wishing that I bought it
I was selling some Jungle Pikachus and a buyer referred to them as “base set OG holo pikachus”.
There seem to be a lot of new faces entering the hobby.
There are a lot more shadowed versions than shadowless.
Ya but all 1st editions SHOULD be shadowless. So I’m a little surprised when I see a 1st edition machismo holo “with” shadow. Basically looking unlimited but a 1st edition