Valuing Complete Set in Comparison to the Individual cards

[sandmantheenless]

Hello, if someone were to sell a complete graded set like all the shining PSA 9, or the gold stars psa 8, or the WOTC psa 10 promos, would the value increase because they are them all in one place? Or would it be cheaper since the buyer is in a way buying in bulk? Personal I thought that it would add 10 to 15 percent for the seller putting in the work of buying or grading all the singles, but I also understand that it depends on if the buyer is buying or if the seller is selling (Hopefully that makes sense). Thanks

[jcincy101]

@sandmantheenless

Hello, if someone were to sell a complete graded set like all the shining PSA 9, or the gold stars psa 8, or the WOTC psa 10 promos, would the value increase because they are them all in one place? Or would it be cheaper since the buyer is in a way buying in bulk? Personal I thought that it would add 10 to 15 percent for the seller putting in the work of buying or grading all the singles, but I also understand that it depends on if the buyer is buying or if the seller is selling (Hopefully that makes sense). Thanks

I thought the rule is that it would add value but everyone is saying that complete PSA 10 Shadowless Set went for a lot lesss than if sold individually so I think it just depends

[cullers]

@jcincy101

@sandmantheenless

Hello, if someone were to sell a complete graded set like all the shining PSA 9, or the gold stars psa 8, or the WOTC psa 10 promos, would the value increase because they are them all in one place? Or would it be cheaper since the buyer is in a way buying in bulk? Personal I thought that it would add 10 to 15 percent for the seller putting in the work of buying or grading all the singles, but I also understand that it depends on if the buyer is buying or if the seller is selling (Hopefully that makes sense). Thanks

I thought the rule is that it would add value but everyone is saying that complete PSA 10 Shadowless Set went for a lot lesss than if sold individually so I think it just depends

Context is important, no reserve/$.99 start auctions are dictated by buyers and buyers alone. BIN/BO listings are dictated by buyer and seller.

[oldskoolpokemon]

There are a lot of different factor that you need to take into consideration… So that this doesn’t turn into a novel, I’ll just stick with PSA Graded Cards.

If you’re looking to sell-off a collection to free-up some cash-flow quickly, I would highly recommend piecing-out the collection into individual cards. This method will attract A LOT more people who are either trying to finish-off their own collection and/or people who don’t have the cash-flow to purchase the entire set in one go. Additionally, you’ll add a few buyers who are just after one or two cards (people who don’t go after complete sets - but individual cards).

However, if you’re just looking to entertain offers - and don’t really need the cash anytime soon, I would recommend keeping the collection as-is - especially if it’s something in high-demand. You’ll eventually get a small premium (not sure about percentage-wise) for having the complete set; however, you need to find the perfect buyer - and this could take awhile!

Another important factor to take into consideration is based upon yourself - how much time do you have / want to invest? If you’re like me, the time spent photographing / listing / answering questions or entertaining offers / packaging / mailing really doesn’t matter. However, for some people with full-time jobs (or a life - LOL) it’s just easier to have one listing for the entire collection - it is a lot less work doing it that way!

[sgpokecollect]

Just wanted to share my personal thoughts on set sales - it’s a very unusual animal because people that buy sets will only do so if they’re less than say a quarter done with the set. shipping costs can really add up for overseas buyers.

So what does this mean?

A set sale of 1st ed base likely targets a buyer that is new to pokemon but a heavy hitter elsewhere, and intuitively is attracted to the idea of owning the most iconic set right off the bat. Most pokemon collectors already have some sort of position in 1st ed base although generally incomplete so I suspect they’re not target number one.

A set sale of fossil likely targets a buyer that has been collecting e.g. 1st ed base / Shadowless and wants to finish up other sets e.g. fossil one shot cause the individual cards are too low value to buy piece by piece internationally (paying $20 shipping for a $20 card is just…), or if they just wanna branch to a new set like gym

The shadowless is an anomaly that with hindsight may have been destined to do badly because there’s no clear targeted buyer pool for what is a very pricey asset relative to other pokemon cards

• shadowless is moderately niche, people outside pokemon dont necessarily have the appetite to pick up sth that might look like *gasp unlimited to them
• yet those that know about shadowless usually own quite a few big copies already and don’t need the whole set

I’ve never seen a set do that badly on auction before and I’m beginning to thing it’s shadowless set that is uniquely at risk to underperforming in an auction - I half suspect regular 1st ed sets or even any set except shadowless would do better relative to the sum of the parts

[brusany]

I think one other thing to consider. If the market is saturated with all the pieces of whatever set you are looking to get. It would seem to favor the cheaper/bulk idea.

[lolzicost]

@sgpokecollect

Just wanted to share my personal thoughts on set sales - it’s a very unusual animal because people that buy sets will only do so if they’re less than say a quarter done with the set. shipping costs can really add up for overseas buyers.

So what does this mean?

A set sale of 1st ed base likely targets a buyer that is new to pokemon but a heavy hitter elsewhere, and intuitively is attracted to the idea of owning the most iconic set right off the bat. Most pokemon collectors already have some sort of position in 1st ed base although generally incomplete so I suspect they’re not target number one.

A set sale of fossil likely targets a buyer that has been collecting e.g. 1st ed base / Shadowless and wants to finish up other sets e.g. fossil one shot cause the individual cards are too low value to buy piece by piece internationally (paying $20 shipping for a $20 card is just…), or if they just wanna branch to a new set like gym

The shadowless is an anomaly that with hindsight may have been destined to do badly because there’s no clear targeted buyer pool for what is a very pricey asset relative to other pokemon cards

• shadowless is moderately niche, people outside pokemon dont necessarily have the appetite to pick up sth that might look like *gasp unlimited to them
• yet those that know about shadowless usually own quite a few big copies already and don’t need the whole set

I’ve never seen a set do that badly on auction before and I’m beginning to thing it’s shadowless set that is uniquely at risk to underperforming in an auction - I half suspect regular 1st ed sets or even any set except shadowless would do better in terms of sum of the parts

I have to agree, I think if the set itself is not sought after and only a few individual cards from set have high value, then it won’t get a premium, it will just sell as bulk. There’s honestly not many master sets that get premiums.