Why shouldnt platinum/hgss sets skyrocket in the future?

I have a question. I really dont know many reasons why the diamond pearl platinum hgss sets should stay cheap. Many people say they will stay that cheap for a long time. One thing came to my mind:
Why? The games where both extremely good and popular. But the fans of these sets are only 17-22 years old on average. They cant afford to buy a card for much money/are not willing to spend much money on cards. But whats about in 5-10 years? They will work probably, gain money through their job etc.
Why should dpp/hgss stay cheap?

Because all students with loans go straight into Base Set, Sealed and Gold Stars. That’s all they do, for years.
If you think they gonna skyrocket; do a Rudy and just take position. Undaunted and Unleashed are amazing sets that are just waiting for a sudden boom

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I think those sets need a few more years for them to be nostalgia sets for those who used to be kids at the time those sets were new. It will take some time for them to get expensive. Even ex-series isn’t expensive yet apart from sealed items and Gold Star cards. The similar could happen to DPP / HGSS, sealed product rising but singles not too much.

The only HGSS era set that has seen price increase is Call of Legends with it’s shiny cards. Only time will tell what happens but I’m not expecting anything major soon.

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Nah. I think the main reason for DPP/HGSS not being as sought after at this moment is because the majority of “young collectors” want Instagram feed food. The Prime or Lv.X cards are just not that wow factor as the 10,000th Goldstar Entei being posted. That’s why I said; all the students with student loans burning in their pockets hunt down the Zards, sealed packs, anything WotC and anything Goldstar/Shiny. Because that’s what brings in the Insta-views.

HGSS (especially Undaunt/Unleashed/Triump) has amazing art work that just feels short of appreciation. Which will come sooner or later. Snatch 'em while you can!

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Ex cards need to go up a lot more first. All the ex ruby and sapphire cards/sets and onwards until D/P are still too undervalued in my view. This is why I am collecting every EX card in PSA 9/10 atm :blush:

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I also think that ex era is severely underpriced, especially graded cards. Sealed product is not too expensive yet given sheer rarity of some of those boxes. I think product before hgss and DP has to be much more absorbed before we see huge spikes in newer sets as most things are still quite affordable. Nostalgia will of course help price increase but I’m not too sure about the state of the tcg during that era, and if enough kids really collected those cards. I don’t know these sets myself and I feel no incentive to start collecting them as it’s just too new imo, there’s just too much stuff you can go after before you hit hgss - I think we still have to wait a few years to really see bigger changes.

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Agree with this

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They just don’t have that wow factor. Not nostalgic enough and lv x mechanics were not popular either. HGSS was kind of the recovery sets from interest lost in the dp/platinum era. Really they are extremely tough to grade because print quality was awful and the promos especially from Tins are ever more difficult to find in gem minty condition so they have very low pops still. Maybe one day they will gain some traction among collectors. Hard to say really what the future holds for those sets.

I can say people have taken large positions in these boxes already. After seeing what happened to WOTC and even when those boxes were released, people stocked up. There will definitely be a price increase as more kids of that era start their careers or grow, but I wouldn’t expect a boom like we have seen for WOTC. Still a good investment, just not going to make you rich.

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I don’t share this opinion all of you have that as soon as the kids that played/watched Pokemon during X-era will go back to that era as soon as they have disposable income and still interest in Pokemon.
For last 5-6 years I am member of various Dutch Pokemon Facebook groups, and I see the same trend every single year. A few guys in the age 18-20 getting their student loans, have started their first job and have disposable income. The thing they go after is WOTC. First Edition Base Set in various languages, the Charizards, the Blastoises, the Gold Stars, Shiny Pokemon and everything else between Base Set and Skyridge. I have never ever seen any of these guys that are now in their late teens, early twenties suddenly making posts with showcasing their FRLG/DPt collection. No, all I see is them wanting to buy holos from Base Set, PSA9’s but not FRLG EX’s or DPt Lv.X’s.

The only way for FRLG/DPt/HGSS sets to spike is when someone is really is going to do a buy out. Buying as many EX/Lv.X and reverse holos of these sets as possible, making binders (or boxes) full with NM-MT cards from these sets and just deplete the stock; which is limited due to low print runs anyway.

I grew up with base set and have chosen to massively collect ex psa 9s instead of base set. EX boxes are starting to rise rapidly. Eventually so will DP/HGSS but it will take many years is my view

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It’s the assumption many many people have that new collectors will start with the set that they used to play/buy/are from their era is what is wrong. In the world of Instagram, no guy or girl at the age of 18 investing money into a hobby will showcase something that doesn’t generate hits. They rather share another LP-NM Base Set Charizard, that we’ve all seen before, than that they share freshly pulled FRLG EX cards. Sadly, the Pokemon hobby has changed into having exposure on social media rather than completing your own goals in your own pace.

In the end, all product will gain value, gain in price but only because people buy up sealed product for investment, crack them open for Youtube videos and Instagram likes, break boxes to make Mystery Bags (after syphoning off 1 heavy pack and a full art work sets for their own ‘collection’). But it’s not because Timmy will that was born in 2002 and cracking his first ever Pokemon pack of HS Unleashed at age of 8 and pulled this amazing Crobat Prime wants to relive his childhood and start with HIS first set when he has money to spare when he turns 17/18. No, Timmy will try to complete a Base Set, because Charizard will be worth 5000$ in 10 years.

(Yes, my first set was Jungle (Base Set was not readily available) and I choose to actually not complete any set but rather on focusing on my favourite Pokemon. I think set collecting is something only a select few can do anyway).

Respectfully disagree somewhat but time will tell. The truth is we don’t know for sure how this will evolve but can only speculate at this point. Interesting to hear your point of view and others regardless :blush:

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I don’t think social media is a good representation of how people generally collect. The majority of actual collectors probably don’t even post on social media.

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Collectors are definitely not all instagram gangster hype boys who buy nothing but like-bait.

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Maybe not, I got an Instagram as well but I cannot recall last time I posted something I added to the collection. But as I said, on these various Facebook groups I am active on, I see people from various ages getting and leaving the hobby. And the a lot start off with “I started to collect Pokemon cards again after finding my cards from ye olde days again. [insert photo of some e-Series non holo rares] Does anyone sell cards from Base Set, Jungle and Fossil? I want to start from the first set ever”. The other, but rarer “I want to make a Pokedex but every card has to be from the earliest set possible…” aka; I start collecting but Base - Team Rocket.
Especially these that show their old cards, that they took care of in a simple binder or something like a tin or deck box don’t hook right into with what they already own and are familiar with. They cycle back and go to Base Set.

The boxes are already really expensive considering how 4th gen sets really aren’t that special.

I can’t think of a 4th gen card worth more than $50 raw off the top of my head, maybe Cyrus’ Charizard?

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I absolutely love the HGSS sets, Primes especially.

I have a complete PSA 10 Prime collection and do not think prices will change anytime soon.

However, if prices are to move, then people who admire these cards just need to hoover them up on the cheap.

I’ve graded loads of Primes and the ratio of getting 10s is poor in comparison to freshly pulled WOTC/EX Eras.

My personal opinion, they look great (I know primes are love em or hate em), unique, hard to grade, sealed prices stable, the supply of sealed lowering.

If you like them just buy them and let prices fall were they fall :wink:

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Diamond and pearl era got literally no chase cards, thats what i think about DP. Same happens with platinum but a few cards that are ‘‘collectable’’ for me; in my situation.
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Social media wise; i dont think it matters to me; whatever i decide to collect is entirely my choice and not surrounded by any kind of hype.

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