…or buy anything from blacklisted seller and scammer cardhouse.eu. Credit to @prochaos for the detective work.
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Why I Don’t Buy PSA 10 Set Cards
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@fourthstartcg to reflect what we talked about back in your thread about Pokemon cards and investing, knowledge is key in this hobby, and one of the first things I took note of in my learning was this seller and their previous poor practices in the hobby. I had no idea how awful their practices were and nearly fell for the whole wholesome-esq storefront presentation in their listings, but im glad i got to block them and find all those things out before ever making any sort of purchases.
This one just makes me even more angry, but I find its way worse being that its one of my favorite pokemon and a card i just struggled to obtain in a PSA 9. I dont even care if it hurts the value of mine, im moreso just sad to know that some people resort to these sorts of practices solely for profit without considering the consequences to their actions. Just makes me sick.
Edit: Im in agreement with that that regrading is “wrong” per say, but more so my point was stressing the sellers previous efforts of regrading cards to quite the extreme nature is what I see here in terms of this specific card (not to that extent, but its hard not to relate the sellers past efforts when you see another regrade). Ultimately, I really have no experience there or real opinion on it, unless a situation is present such as with this seller with their known actions of the gold star dogs, which in that case rose my post in how i find it hard to see this case cracking as ok in my eyes. Regardless, overall i see this as an is what it is scenario but its hard to not see that past when something like this rises
@pkmnflyingmaster, agreed.
Blocked serial numbers are a stereotype!
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I’m on mobile so the images are quite small: what’s wrong with this being regraded as a 10? Looks pretty 10-worthy to me.
Didn’t he also do this with neo discovery yanma? You’d have to be an idiot to buy 10s from this clown
I’ll put 15k on it right now tho because you know I gotta have it for the collection and gram flex you feel
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It was literally a 9 before it was a 10.
Besides that from the front photo alone, the left right centering is off. I have numerous identical Psa 8-9 copies with that centering. Also no one knows how many times it was regraded.
From the ebay photos it also has a clear print line too 
I mean it’s a PSA 10? What’s wrong here?
With $20 grading fees and 5 figure price differences does this surprise anyone?
Dont see it as a $10k profit when it inevitably sells. See it as $10k worth of future crack/regrades down the line (400-1,000 more attempts).
Also, I know this isn’t the worst 10 in the pop report (see last sale).
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lol ill just flex my 9 to myself and save the 14,250 left over for more 9s of cards 
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Imo there’s nothing “wrong” with regrading and there’s nothing wrong with paying obscene amounts of money on this even with the knowledge it is regraded.
What may be wrong is to do this without any kind of transparency (hell, even the cert is blocked). That’s debatable. I’m not sure where I land tbh. I think for a card where there is such a large price difference between 9 and 10, the better ethical move is to disclose the regrade. But I can probably be convinced otherwise with a good counter-argument to this.
But imo this thread is not about what’s wrong. It’s about what’s right. And in this case, if you have the knowledge that this card was regraded and if you know that knowledge could make people choose to pay less or not buy at all, then it’s probably the right thing to let the community be aware of where this card came from so people can make fully informed decisions.
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Same
Same.
For the same reason I don’t think people need to go over every card with a fine toothed comb to declare it as “strong” or “weak”, I think people need not justify a card by how many times it took to achieve it’s grade. Plus blocking the cert doesn’t have anything to do with that, just a dumb thing to do overall. (Maybe it’s hiding 5-10 of these consecutive along with some yanma’s slowbros etc. that were also attempted regrades). The fact is that this card passed through the foremost grading authority on the planet and achieved their 10/10 grade. Counter to your claim I would claim that the seller should have to be LESS forthcoming with information on a card with such a large price gap as I would assume the buyer would be more scrupulous in buying such a card if they care about the card. If they solely care about the label, which many people won’t admit applies to them, then it doesn’t matter anyway (and that is a perfectly fine way for people to collect if they so choose to). Don’t forget as well that the PSA guarantee applies to this card, and PSA upon review of this card will 100/100 times stand by the grade.
I’ve always stated that the PSA 9/10 overlap is wider than I am comfortable with given the valuation difference. That is why I, and I believe you, collect 9’s that would classify as “strong”. Cracking and submitting 100 PSA 9’s at random would be interesting to do and likely self funding, just ask cardhouse. Cracking and submitting 100 PSA 10’s at random would be an excruciating endeavor for even the most discriminating “strong 10” buyers out there.
Definitely agree that knowledge is power and spreading that knowledge can only serve to help people make more informed decisions.
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Is regrading inherently bad? Of course not, but the point of this thread isn’t to debate the merits of regrading, it’s to provide knowledge. As this is a very popular and pricey card, prospective buyers should know that it was cracked and resubmitted at least once. Considering the last public sale of the card was back in 2018, I’d venture a guess that it might have been through the process several times.
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Re-grading isn’t inherently bad, some cards genuinely sit between grades.
Its the manic regrading that is off imo. You don’t hear about the 4 9 results, and only see the 1 10. Mathematically speaking, it is 20% 10 and 80% 9. It just feels greasy when you discover the 10 you bought was previously graded a 9 4 times.
Ultimately the market is so large there will always be a buyer and differing perspectives.
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Wait wait, the serial number in the PSA database shows a 10. So when he asks for a review, they just adjust the pre-existing serial to reflect the new grade rather than issue a new serial? So he wasn’t even cracking and resubmitting raw, rather just sending it in (in the PSA case) asking for a 2nd look? If that’s the case I feel this is more on PSA than it is the seller. That’s a lot more ethical than cracking and resubmitting raw 20 times.
Wow, how could PSA actually review this card over with the print line and centering(not 60/40) and deem it a 10?
At least this clears the animosity some would have had with *cardhouse. PSA decided after looking it over that it was worthy of a 10 instead of a 9. That’s much better than cardhouse getting the 10 through raw resubmissions imo
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Good catch! Doesn’t really change the original point though, it was originally judged to be a 9 and now it’s a 10. As such someone may want to be more critical of the card’s condition.
I also don’t know what PSA’s process is exactly for reviews, but there certainly isn’t any limit. Just because the card wasn’t cracked doesn’t mean it wasn’t resubmitted multiple times.
If anything the fact that it was done via an in-case resubmission is the worst possible look for PSA. That has always been a bit of a joke service to me.
*PSA grader handles plastic slab and looks at an encased card with an obscured view and deems that his current expert opinion is better than his predecessors expert opinion who got to view and evaluate the card raw in hand.* Juicy added detail for this specific card though.
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